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westone or westone?

Post by sticky on Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:42 am

Hi all

mark here,

just wondering, is it pronounced west tone (im quite sure it is) or west one?

sorry for the silly question but if i dont find out it will be bothering me for ever.

thanks.

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Re: westone or westone?

Post by Guest on Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:04 am

Hello Mark, Smile

It is pronounced 'West Tone'! Or, if you prefer, 'Wes Stone'!
Very Happy

BTW, Sorry about the 'Kid' jokes!
Laughing
Will you put those leads away before someone trips over them, though? lol! lol! lol!


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Checking in

Post by Confused on Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:59 am

Hiya all,
I've been out of the country and hence out of touch with this gang and I check in after a bit and HOLY COW, a whole new bunch of posts, members and assorted other stuff-WOW.
Mark, welcome and I love your Avatar. Good to see someone of tender years who appreciates the greatness of Jimi. A GENIUS who could evoke every emotion from his instrument (even if it WAS the "F" word).
To the rest of the crew here, I bought a brand new digital camera (I hope I didn't waste the $20) and will be posting pictures of Lucy shortly if I can figure out how to work the software and the posting situation. (Ms. Polly, I may impose on you and PM you the pictures if I have trouble posting them-thank you very much in advance).
To Mr. Logical John. "3 in 1" is a standard quality lubricating oil and is NOT a penetrating oil. WD40 on the other hand is an excellent general cleaner/solvent but NOT a lubricating oil, as such. WD stands for water displacement and does have SOME lubrication properties but should not be depended upon for lubrication alone.
The treatments suggested for brass are right on but keep in mind when cleaning ANY metal, that particular metal may have been previously coated with a clear lacquer, that has to be removed completely before a good cleaning can be effected. Then a re-coat with clear lacquer as Ms. Polly suggested is in order.
As to repairing/filling voids in wood...I have, in the past successfully used 5 minute epoxy to good effect. On occasion when I wanted to thicken the mixture before application I have used fine sawdust or talcum (scented or unscented-your preference) powder as a thickening agent. When filling larger voids I would reccomend using hardwood bits rather than soft wood bits expecially if you will be putting screws into the repair. Drilling a pilot hole will minimise screw breakage on re-assembly.
Regarding "restoration" in general, the more original parts you can use, the better IMHO.
Got to practice some more....Keep well all.
Still confused....hahahaha

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Re: westone or westone?

Post by Guest on Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:06 pm

Good Evening Mr. Confused, Smile

I'm glad to hear that you are still around and that Lucy is coming along nicely, and we all look forward to seeing the photographs of her. Please, by all means, let me know if you have any trouble posting the photos and I will be glad to help.
Very Happy

My apologies for not getting back to you about the photos of the trem cover on my Pantera, I've been rather busy myself lately! I'll get onto that first thing! Do you still require the measurements for it too?

I have to agree with you about young Mark being a fan of such a great guitarist as Jimi, it is so nice to see the younger generations appreciating someone who died even before they themselves were born! My own son, who is now almost 22 is also a big fan of Mr. Hendrix.
cheers

I stand corrected regarding the pre-lacquer on brass parts. I had made the assumption that this was already a known fact! Thank you for pointing that one out to me and I shall duly note it in my book that I am writing about guitar restorations. Thank you also for the additional tips about oil etc., I'm certain that everyone will benefit from your knowledge, as I have.

Keep practicing!

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Re: westone or westone?

Post by logicaljohn on Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:36 pm

I've always had it as Westone as in Wes Tone Mark..

Hello Mr Confused.. thanks for the tips...

I've had my bridge and saddles in a jar of WD for a coupe of days... the adustment (allen key top) screws looked a little seized to me.. I guess I'd better get them out and dry them off.. Then I think a bit of a strip and some ammonia or brillo was it as Polly suggested.../ (I'll check before commencing.. !)


I've used the epoxy (or even pva) and sawdust filler myself before.. Its no big deal, none of my screwed in attachments seemed loose, I was just wondering, with such a fundamental joint as the neck one.. whether it was an idea to give the screws a little grip-help on their return (given that presumably necks are meant to be a one-time connected item.. )

I dunno, I'll probably just fix it back as is.. and see how it feels/goes../

I'm not really working on this Thunder to 'restore' it to original condition, more to retore it to being a beautiful and playable thing, perhaps with a little (cosmetic) customisation on the way...

Congratulations with the digital camera by the way.. a world of fun awaits you there and looking forward to your pics...

And Pollyanna you really must let up on the kid jokes. Once you've made sure he's done his homework of course

clown ..

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Re: westone or westone?

Post by corsair on Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:08 pm

Nice to see ya back, Con - it weren't the same without you! My only suggestion re. the new camera... read the instructions! I had mine for about 10 months before I actually did, but what a difference a little knowledge makes, eh!!

I'm afraid I shall risk the ire of everyone in here, but I do not care for Hendrix, with the exception of "The wind cries Mary". He's held up as an innovator but really, he's just a louder version of the older bluesmen like Johnny "Guitar" Watson! At the some time as Hendrix was becoming famous you had truly classy players as Scotty Moore and George Kooymans quietly going about their business. I reckon because he was loud, outrageous and associated with drugs he became the de facto emblem of the emerging hippy movement in the UK; you notice that he sank without trace in the US before Chas Chandler got a hold him!

There you go - my neck's on the block; I await the axes to fall... Laughing

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Re: westone or westone?

Post by corsair on Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:14 pm

logicaljohn wrote:I've had my bridge and saddles in a jar of WD for a coupe of days... the adjustment (hex top) screws looked a little seized to me..

...be VERY careful forcing them if they are seized - I have one here that I've actually put a flame on from my gas plant... it's still frozen in there so it's now it a small jar of diesel where it will stay for 6 months whereupon I'll get it out and try again! If it doesn't move, back in for another 6 months - diesel is the best penetrating oil known, it just doesn't work very quickly! Fortunately Westone spares had a replacement one...


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Re: westone or westone?

Post by Confused on Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:06 am

Hiya,
Thanks for the "welcome backs". I didn't realise I was missed...hahahahaha...
I DID pay only $20 for the camera and the instruction manual is 1/2 page-point and shoot. It clips onto my key chain.
To Mr. Logical John: WD is not really the best penetrant. I concur with Mr. Corsair, do NOT force the adjustment screws!!!!! In North America, people "swear" by PB Blaster as a penetrant and you may be able to get some. Soaking in WD will not do any harm but it may not break any rust. I didn't realise guitars ran on diesel (for who ever is soaking their part in that stuff-sorry I can't remember who posted that one-but why not, diesel does work). LJ, You may want to purchase some rust remover (usually has an ortho-phoshoric/hydrochloric acid component) and soak your parts in that. Prior to the rust remover, de-grease the parts in lacquer thinner, acetone and methanol-in that order because the acid will NOT work in the presence of any oily stuff. Keep a close eye on the process and check to see if the acid will disolve any other bridge/saddle components (ask a chemistry student/professor). Another option is to take your degreased parts to a jeweler and have him/her do an ultrasonic cleaning on them. Ultrasonics may allow you to wiggle the adjustment screws sufficiently to get some lubrication in there to effect some movement.
Failing all of the above, heat the part (even with a BIC lighter) and try to wiggle the adjustment screw (DON'T force it-it may take 5-10+ or more heatings with application of penetrating oil in between). Be patient, move it a bit at a time, take your time, it will free up providing the seizing is due to rust and not to thread stripping (but that's a whole different story).
Mr. Corsair...I fully respect your opinons RE: Jimi, and "The Wind Cries Mary" IS my favorite song (as this is my wife's name) and yes, I am a hippie (peace love and grooviness) and yes he was associated with drugs etc., but listen to the chord progressions in Little Wing and tell me you are not moved.
We are all musicians (good or not so good). Music moves each of us depending on our moods. That's what music does. Some days, Angus and AC/DC turns my crank, others, Pink Floyd, others the Rolling Stones (although I sometimes wonder how Keith is still alive).
No axes for you Mr. Corsair, your neck will never be on the block....enjoy the music.

Regards....

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Re: westone or westone?

Post by sticky on Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:36 am

Hi all,

Thanks for confirming that one, i was quite sure it was west tone, but had to check.
About jimi - he is not my favorite guitarist but i couldnt find a picture of Rory gallaher in the images on this site so decided on jimi instead. (yes i think rory is a better guitarist than jimi.)

thanks again,

mark.

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Re: westone or westone?

Post by corsair on Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:32 pm

Confused wrote:, but listen to the chord progressions in Little Wing and tell me you are not moved.

...oh, don't get me wrong - some of his stuff is simply stunning - that would be the quieter, more introspective songs! - ; what I'm saying is that I don't reckon him to be the be-all and end-all! And I reckon I was born 10 years too late - ask my wife what listen to and she'll roll her eyes and sigh; I would have loved to have been in the UK in the 60's... with all that that entails!! I had to make do with the 80's, and that wasn't quite the same...

Mark, I was lucky enough to see Rory in NZ in about 1978/79 and meet the man after the gig - he was a revelation; so very laid back and interesting to boot! Like most of the oldies in here, I've probably seen a lot of the now-dead or retired artists you're now getting interested in when they were in their prime - God, I feel old!

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Re: westone or westone?

Post by Confused on Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:23 am

Hiya Mr. Corsair,
"God I feel old"-hahahahaha-when I get up in the morning, what doesn't hurt, doesn't work.
Hope this helps for the future....

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Re: westone or westone?

Post by corsair on Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:45 pm

Confused wrote:when I get up in the morning, what doesn't hurt, doesn't work. Hope this helps for the future....

...Thanks for that, bro! It's a bugger when dressing consists of strapping unreliable parts of the body to slightly more reliable parts, eh!! Laughing

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