H-S-H pups, Push Pull Knobs, different tone option controls

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H-S-H pups, Push Pull Knobs, different tone option controls

Post by The Chad on Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:39 pm

For Westies with the H-S-H pups, three push-pull knobs, and 3 way toggle (like the Spectrum, Dimension IV, Dynasty), am I right in explaining it this way?:

Three way toggle: Selects either humbucker or both
1st Knob - Volume, Coil tap for both humbuckers
2nd Knob - Selects or deselects the Single pup, tone control for Single pup
3rd Knob - Tone control for both Humbucker pups, phase reversal

I think that this is correct from playing around and from what I'd read. If I'm wrong, please let me know. Is this same control for all the Westie guitars that have the H-S-H pups, 3 way toggle and 3 push pull knobs? scratch Someone who knows more than I do, please chime in!


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Re: H-S-H pups, Push Pull Knobs, different tone option controls

Post by Barry on Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:59 pm


Dynasty description
Spectrum GT description

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Re: H-S-H pups, Push Pull Knobs, different tone option controls

Post by The Chad on Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:02 pm

Thanks Barry, looks like I was right for once. Finally some hard proof for my Wife! sunny

Since mine is an '84, do you think it has the same Magnaflux II's that the '85 does? I didn't take them out to read the bottom, but I think that other '84 Dynasty's had the MK45's (humbuckers, anyway). Are the MK45's the same as the Magnaflux II's, just named differently?

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Re: H-S-H pups, Push Pull Knobs, different tone option controls

Post by LamontGrady on Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:44 pm

Actually I don't quite get it - is the center pickup ever on only itself? Or is it turned on in combination of where the 3-way humbucker switch is?

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Re: H-S-H pups, Push Pull Knobs, different tone option controls

Post by The Chad on Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:46 pm

The middle pick up is only in combination with the others, if I remember correctly. I'll check it out tonight when I go home.

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Post by Barry on Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:32 pm

The Chad wrote:The middle pick up is only in combination with the others, if I remember correctly.
Yup.

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a link to the Electra site, more info plus a wiring diagram...

Post by Iceman on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:40 pm

Here is more on the H-S-H configuration as it began with the Electra Westone Phoenix series x185 and following. A wiring diagram covering other similar pup configured Westone guitars is down the posting abit...

http://www.rivercityamps.com/electrapage/comments.php?y=08&m=01&entry=entry080123-091934

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Re: H-S-H pups, Push Pull Knobs, different tone option controls

Post by LamontGrady on Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:42 pm

Aha! Ok it all makes sense now. Mine seems to be wired exactly like that. That's a great article.

When looking at this other diagram, it gives me the idea to move the output of the 3-position switch to the unused side of the "turn on middle pickup" switch. Mine is not like this, but it shows an extra wire in place that would make it easy. See how the output of the selector switch is always connected to the rest of the chain, but via the wire from the middle position selector?
other wiring diagram

I'd like to try JUST the middle pup and see if it's "better" than the neck in SC mode. I usually will tweak the tone stack on a guitar until it's juuuust right. One of my favorite neck pups is the SC on my trusty Spectrum SX. This is the first neck humbucker westone I've ever had. Who knows what will be "best" but I'm dying to try it.

Heck I haven't had 10 minutes to play the dang guitar since I got it and here I am typing on a computer instead of playing it!! I got a Dimension IV locally last week!!

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