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Post by chaypup on Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:24 am

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo........................ affraid

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Re: Westone.info CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!

Post by Iceman on Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:47 am

chaypup wrote:Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo........................ affraid


There may be a glimmer of hope yet remaining. ..

http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t2061-westone-spares#16718

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Post by munkieNL on Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:44 pm

Man this sux. He could have left the info online at least. Or open a mirror site.

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Post by hobster on Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:03 pm

Well, it appears that the site is gone for good. This really sux, but i think its time to stop mourning and try to get a new one started. Very Happy Here is a cool acoustic catalog i found online:

http://www.oldguitar.jp/catalog/westone.htm

I have a few catalogs i can scan but i know nothing about websites. Hopefully we can get something going! There must be computer nerds on here somewhere. Wink

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Post by bowenjaybee on Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:31 pm

Can't we just have separate sections on these forums. one for wiring diagrams and one for catalogue scans? I have the 1981 catalogue scans.


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Post by spidey2 on Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:10 pm

Here's a taster.... and hey it's spidey2's Thunder 1 Laughing


HEY LOL
do you have a high res scan of this?? want to make a 8x10 of it :oops

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Post by Barry on Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:18 pm

Hey fellas, thanks for the posts and links, but before we go off on a tangerine and this thing gets out of hand can we please do at least one thing?
Rather than starting up several threads on this topic can we consolidate any input under the existing "sticky":
STICKY THREAD

I know John (Corsair) is working hard behind the scenes, and I and others are attempting to put some structure in place to accommodate all the information that we know is out there in our forum population. But first, we need to know what we're going to do with it all before we get deluged. I'm sure we'll get some direction from John soon.

Meantime if I may be so bold as to ask on his behalf and that of the Mods, please start sniffing around and locating your Westone pictures, Westone scans and Westone forum links. Trust me, you'll be called on very soon to send it in. Then the work can begin to build a bigger and better site that we control!

Cheers!
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Post by spidey2 on Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:39 pm

Check your Temporary Internet Files if you were on westone.info recently the pics you were looking at will still be in there Very Happy

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Post by Barry on Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:31 pm

Good suggestion!

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Post by corsair on Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:45 am

Now, here's an interesting little snippet from one of the Electra boys replying to me over there....

Have you been in contact with the Admin? I was watching a "Dimension IV" auction last week, and the seller was using a bunch of links from the Westone site, about four days into it, all the linked images at the bottom of the auction had been hacked to show some very objectionable pornography. The hacking was done to the Westone site, not the auction, so maybe this incident had something to do with the site going down? Maybe not... Mike.

...sort of puts a new spin on things, doesn't it!! Just something to keep in mind, I reckon.....

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Site Hacking

Post by Barry on Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:41 am

That's very disturbing news. Neutral
If the originating source of the pix was on on this site and was tampered with, that means someone has hacked the Admin or Mod password. In most places around the world this is of course, illegal activity, and punishable. If the pix were hosted externally it is possible that that originating source was compromised and has nothing to do with this forum.

Either way, sadly, hacking a users login password on a forum is depressingly easy for someone with the motivation and minimal technical skills, and difficult to trace. This could be a complete outsider doing it for a prank, or someone closer to the vest. (And I caution members to be careful about publicly citing any individual here folks, there are libel laws too!) Or it may just be the random workings of a malicious web bot.

Let this be warning to us all not to get complacent or careless with passwords, email addresses, etc.

(John, I'll send you a PM on this topic.)

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Post by bowenjaybee on Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:07 am

Barry wrote:If the originating source of the pix was on on this site and was tampered with, that means someone has hacked the Admin or Mod password

I thought he was talking about images from the Westone.Info site not these forums confused

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Post by Iceman on Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:38 pm

Barry wrote:That's very disturbing news. Neutral

Either way, sadly, hacking a users login password on a forum is depressingly easy for someone with the motivation and minimal technical skills, and difficult to trace.

Let this be warning to us all not to get complacent or careless with passwords, email addresses, etc.


Any steps you would recommend that we forumites could take as extra precautions from this? I am pretty careful about cycling passwords, randomizing, etc. Other than the usual commonsense defenses?


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Post by Barry on Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:42 pm

bowenjaybee wrote:...I thought he was talking about images from the Westone.Info site not these forums confused
That could be a possibility but if the "info" site was still up and running, you'd also see the same porn on the Info site when you called up the same page...so not likely.

If the auction took place during the "page redirect" time period, again you'd see the notice about spares closing shop. There was no access to the site content, so the naughty pix likely originated elsewhere.

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Post by spidey2 on Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:47 pm

All i got was the parts page for the last week all links went right to the spares page



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bowenjaybee wrote:...I thought he was talking about images from the Westone.Info site not these forums confused
That could be a possibility but if the "info" site was still up and running, you'd also see the same porn on the Info site when you called up the same page...so not likely.

If the auction took place during the "page redirect" time period, again you'd see the notice about spares closing shop. There was no access to the site content, so the naughty pix likely originated elsewhere.

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Post by Barry on Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:48 pm

Iceman wrote:...Any steps you would recommend that we forumites could take as extra precautions from this? I am pretty careful about cycling passwords, randomizing, etc. Other than the usual commonsense defenses?
The usual advice is make your password a little tougher to figure out by employing numbers as well as letters, and use capital letters as well as lower case, sometimes referred to as camelback lettering.
Another simple trick is to substitute numbers for letters: 3 for E, 5 for S, 0 for O, etc. You can even use the "bang" (exclamation point !) as a part of your PW.

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I should add here that although it's good practice to employ these techniques as described, the "attack" on forums is generally against the Admin or Mods since they have access to the entire site. Nevertheless you should still take precautions to protect your identity.

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Post by munkieNL on Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:56 pm

Found this site in my bookmarks: http://www.reocities.com/Paris/Lights/6961/westone/index.html

2nd best but it's better than nothing. If we all contribute to this site with our pix and knowledge it could become a replacement for westone.info.

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Post by Barry on Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:07 pm

munkieNL wrote:...2nd best but it's better than nothing.
By all means refer to it but it's still not owned by the forum members here. The plan is to build our own. Contributing there means you're giving your information to "outsiders".

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Post by corsair on Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:30 pm

Barry wrote:
munkieNL wrote:...2nd best but it's better than nothing.
By all means refer to it but it's still not owned by the forum members here. The plan is to build our own. Contributing there means you're giving your information to "outsiders".

And it's not very reliable either; go to the "Pantera" page'; it's not spelled right, and the blurb refers to another guitar than the X350MA pictured... Rolling Eyes

We - well, Barry and I!! - are thinking that making our own model index/catalogue with direct involvement with the owners of the guitars is the way forward. I haven't decided what to actually 'do' at this point as I'm very very new at this stuff and thankfully Barry's holding my hand... a lot!! Look, there's bods in here like Damian, Martin and Jesper who build guitars and people like Steve who build parts and make stuff to keep their gear going as well as all you keen blokes out there; I think we can do this, eh; just in what sort of format is the issue at hand.

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Post by bowenjaybee on Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:48 pm

Update!

http://www.westone.info/

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Post by corsair on Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:51 pm

I'm afraid that's just sad...if you don't want to share, then why put it on the web? For all that were abusing the content, there were many others who just enjoyed the work he'd done and referenced it occasionally.

Ah, well... onwards; it's a brave new world out there...

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Post by Barry on Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:12 pm

Withdrawal pains. Nobody's paying attention now. Rolling Eyes

Look, anyone who puts a web site on the Internet and does not restrict access via login and encryption has de facto placed the content in the public domain.

There is no, repeat, no such thing as a "personal" i.e. private, web site when it is searchable and reachable by every search engine web bot and human surfer in the world! To start crying now about people actually reading and referencing the information is incredibly naive. If you want a personal reference you make a scrap book, you don't put it on the Internet and expect no one to notice.

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Post by hoax on Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:41 pm


I have to say that personally I just could not take to Thorn and I have told him as much in the past. I found him rude and abrasive and totally lacking in interpersonal skills. I believe, that, in itself, was a symptom of his obsessive focus, which tells another story.

I have bit my tongue on this one as I did not want to prejudice our forums endeavours to obtain copies of his files, but I am now glad that we no longer appear to be treading on egg shells.

I actually feel sorry for the guy and a little ashamed of myself for developing the attitude I have for him as I do not believe that he can help the way he is.

Graham

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Post by bowenjaybee on Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:13 pm

I remember the first time I realised Thorn was the Westone.info creator... it's an interesting read. Link


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Post by Iceman on Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:14 pm

Very well put Graham. Hopefully he can find some measure of peace.

Looking forward to the adventure ahead as well.

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