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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:07 pm

didn't I just mention wanting a 390 with the old school logo?

If I didn't just buy the Session II, I would be all over this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110720599734&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

Just the 'W' on the headstock too.

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Post by Iceman on Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:09 pm

Already on it Sarc. This auction may be ended early. cheers

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:12 pm

good luck!

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Post by The Chad on Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:25 am

AH!!!! That's the old logo with the super cool font! cheers This thing is gorgeous, we've been waiting for one like this to show up.

Ice, although I REALLY WANT TO make an offer on this thing, I'll relent for you to take it. Go get this thing man! The Lord will bring me mine one day.


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Post by Westbone on Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:59 am

You've already got one Icebaby, if I remember rightly.

Don't be greedy now.

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Post by colt933 on Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:09 pm

Westbone wrote:You've already got one Icebaby, if I remember rightly.

Don't be greedy now.

I have a nice X390PW w/Kahler that I would gladly trade for an X350MA with TOM/STP.

Let me know!

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Post by Westbone on Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:36 pm

Sorry colt that's a keeper, for now anyway. Smile

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:54 pm

colt933 wrote:I have a nice X390PW w/Kahler that I would gladly trade for an X350MA with TOM/STP.

Let me know!

If I had two 350's I would think about that, but only have the one.....for now

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Post by hobster on Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:55 pm

How bout me. i don't have one. Sad

Just kidding, i have no dough now anyway. I certainly hope someone here gets it! Good luck fellas, it'll be yours Chad if its meant to be.

edit: Just checked and the price has trippled since i last saw it. Ain't gonna be cheap!

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Post by Iceman on Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:13 pm

A price has been agreed on. The seller has assured me he will end the auction early and but for the payment it is now mine.

Remember WB, the original one haunting our home does not belong to me. What a Face

Chad... now you have a reason to get your butt to the 1ST WestoneFest. I suppose failing that I could always gig it out if you ever get up this way... Wink

Fingers crossed, gentlemen...

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:43 pm

wow - would like to know the offer to halt the auction. he had a few bidders and these have gone pretty high of late.

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Post by colt933 on Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:14 pm

sarcaster wrote:wow - would like to know the offer to halt the auction. he had a few bidders and these have gone pretty high of late.

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Post by Iceman on Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:57 pm

...a bird in the hand boys, a bird in the hand...

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Post by Westbone on Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:01 pm

His + Hers X390's lol!

Nice.....

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Post by Iceman on Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:58 pm

Well fellas, this guy may POSSIBLY turn out to be a scammer. I will know more later today and post an update tonight.

Wish me luck but if anyone is bidding you may want to hold your cards another day yet... No

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:07 pm

let me guess.. you made a bid for XXX amount, and he was good with it until he saw the interest in the bidding, and now says he wants to wait to see the highest bid?

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Post by Iceman on Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:04 pm

Well here is the upshot at this time...

Yeah Sarc the auction action is part of it. The other part is he is now saying someone "out of the country" has made him a higher offer that does not include shipping costs.

He has stated he is in a bind for $$ right now and though he feels badly about it he is going to revoke his end of out agreement. There were some troubling signs yesterday though...

I spoke with him twice and the last time he was suddenly requiring a money order from me and would not reply to my emails, phone conversation only as well. He wants to now keep ebay and paypal out of the picture.

I suppose I could sense this was coming. He now wants to think more about it, still says he doesn't want to ship it abroad but thinks he should see more than my offer for it.

I'm going to take one final swing at this and then I'm done.

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Post by Iceman on Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:07 pm

Just a thought....

It seems unlikely but if anyone here is the overseas party and really wants it that bad please shoot me a pm.

No sense in us beating each other up if it means that much to you.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:09 pm

yikes - doesn't sound solid. If it were me I would stick to ebay for this one - at least there is some form of insurance if it goes bad.

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Post by Iceman on Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:51 pm

Well guys my tent is packed and I'm heading home.

His final reply basically told me it is all about the $$ to him now. I told him and will repeat it here that I did not agree with it but I suppose I can understand it. He apparently has financial difficulties at the moment and wishes it was different, but he still will be going back on his word.

I have been very blessed in my life up to this point in that I have never found myself in a place of having to choose between my word and money, and pray that will always be the case. So the lowdown for any still interested parties is...

My initial offer about 14 hours into the auction was basically $775. We agreed at that initial email and phone session on him closing the auction, sending a few added pics and i would get back to him by 9 AM CST with us proceeding to exchange info for the transaction.

Emailed him the next morning confirming my intent, followed with a phone call at noon.... and then it got turned sideways. He still would close early, the guitar was still mine, but he wanted either a money order or I pony up additionally for paypal fees, then ended with it being a money order only. But hey, still mine.

No answers to emails all day until this afternoon, late....... now the auction is over $560, an overseas buyer has offered $850 and he said he needs the "peace of mind" of knowing he sold it for the best price.

Like I said, I don't agree with it but I understand it. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

So if anyone else wishes to go at it go ahead. You will not be stepping on my toes. I hope you don't get sent through the same hoops I have jumped through.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:00 pm

That's what happens when someone is trying to sell inside and outside the auction. I got burned on a 390 last year with a deal. The seller then went on to get high bids on this forum at a later time, while simultaniously running an auction. So in those cases, someone always gets burned. Thats why when something is on auction I don;t try to make a side deal - if I get it - it screws the bidders...but if a bid wins , then i get screwed.

In this case, i assume he will get more than either outside offer since a lot of people have their ebay searches saved to include the 30 and will probablt get bidded around a grand.

Sorry for pain Ice, I've been there. I'm thinking the way to get this one is high bid.

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Post by Barry on Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:24 pm

The Bastid! Evil or Very Mad

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Post by gittarasaurus on Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:49 am


seems like a pretty shady character, trying to play both sides of the fence here. he wants access to ebay buyers, doesn't want to pay for the service.

to me, it looks like there might be a couple shills in this auction driving up the price.

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Post by corsair on Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:28 am

Sad to say, there's wankers everywhere.. even I've been burned!! Sorry to hear it, Ice....

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Post by colt933 on Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:45 am

$710 just now.

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Post by Westbone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:04 am

I can understand where your coming from Ice.

In the same respect you can't blame a fellow for wanting to get as much as he can, in desperate situations apparently.

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Post by hobster on Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:02 pm

Westbone wrote:I can understand where your coming from Ice.

In the same respect you can't blame a fellow for wanting to get as much as he can, in desperate situations apparently.

I agree Westbone. The guy just shoulda kept his mouth shut and let the auction ride. Apparently the guitar was worth more than he thought. Way outa my league, i'll just keep strummin my FX instead and be a happy camper. Very Happy

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Post by Iceman on Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:57 pm

You guys are all within various degrees of being correct. I do not blame him for needing to get the most he can. We have continued to converse throughout this auction and he seems genuinely distressed and remorseful about what he has done to our agreement.

Quite a bit of what I posted so far is venting as well. I have posted his auction a few other places for him and made some suggestions as well for him to edit his listing to hopefully gain a wider audience.

I have to be true to myself and still state that what he chose to do was wrong in my eyes. I still do not feel he was justified, but i can only imagine his present difficulties that drove him in that direction.

I do hope it works out well for him.

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Post by Westbone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:40 pm

So after he let you down.

You're basically now helping him to sell it, strange!!

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Post by corsair on Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:14 pm

Life's too short to be a prick about it, but the regardless of circumstances, he accepted an offer and made "an agreement". Far too many people out there do exactly what has happened to Ice here, and renege on the deal; ethically very wrong; I ever run into the peter andre that scammed me in exactly this way; I'll break his legs...

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Post by Iceman on Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:10 pm

Westbone wrote:So after he let you down.

You're basically now helping him to sell it, strange!!

I agree that looking from the outside in it could be seen as rather strange.

The faintest glimmer of hope remains that I may still end up with it if it does not get too far away from my final offer to him yesterday. He has told me he is still wrestling with what he did (and I'm thinking his "significant other" is working him over a little about it as well), so who knows?

Just cannot find any more anger in my heart over it.... and really I do not want to let it fester in any case. Like I said earlier I have been blessed in my life to have never found myself in his predicament and hope that continues.

John is right... life is far too short.

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Post by The Chad on Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:41 pm

Think about it, there's more out there than just that one. Maybe this one IS yours, Ice, and maybe not. Whatever the case, you'll get yours one day. And hopefully for a better deal than this one will end up being. Very Happy

Maintain integrity like you're doing, good on you bro. You reap what you sow. Just like the seller will.

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Post by Westbone on Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:58 pm

Way to go, break his legs, or at least one, Peter Andre, break 'em both, allegedly.

This is getting like playground stuff, sad.

Don't suck on it, it could evaporate. affraid

An agreement is never made untill it's done. I know.

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Post by hobster on Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:50 am

Wow guys, she's at $936 with over a day left. I can't recall ANY Westone going for over a grand but its heading that way.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:12 pm

hobster wrote:Wow guys, she's at $936 with over a day left. I can't recall ANY Westone going for over a grand but its heading that way.

I've seen a few 390's and at least one 350 top the 1k mark. Al those Rabin fans Smile

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Post by hobster on Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:58 pm

sarcaster wrote:
hobster wrote:Wow guys, she's at $936 with over a day left. I can't recall ANY Westone going for over a grand but its heading that way.

I've seen a few 390's and at least one 350 top the 1k mark. Al those Rabin fans Smile

They are worth every penny too! Very Happy

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Post by corsair on Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:46 pm

Westbone wrote:This is getting like playground stuff, sad.

True... but I make no apologies for that as this sort of thing is just cowardly in the extreme and makes my blood boil. Because it's on "the internet", there are those who suspend all ethics because they're not actually going to face any real consequences of their actions...

The chances of me running into the toerag who scammed me are remote; so I reserve to right to give him a malletting should an opportunity present itself...

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Post by TVill25 on Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:05 pm

Even beyond being a Rabin fan. Owning such a well made and rare guitar is worth it. Although if I had to pick I would stick with my FX over my x390. I like the neck a little better. Although new pickups are in order for the x390. Smile

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Post by Iceman on Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:16 pm

Ahhhhh yesssss. Spectrum FX/Phoenix x199..... the two sides of that other coin I am always on watch for.

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Post by Guest on Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:14 pm

wow 1580 US. He got a nice price for a nice guitar. AS much as I would like another 390, I don;t think I would pay that amount unless it was mint in the original mint case. Sorry Ice for the bad deal, but congrads to the new owner - looks like a keeper.

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Post by hobster on Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:33 pm

Wow, thats alot. Anyone see a Westie go that high before?

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Post by corsair on Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:35 pm

Shocked nope... Shocked

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Post by Iceman on Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:45 pm

Oh it was definitely a keeper. Only one finish blemish near the body bottom edge and one nicked fret from the pictures (about 15 or so) that he sent me.

So he basically about doubled the "outside" offers he got, at least those that he shared with me.

I also know now what his word is worth from a dollar standpoint, I suppose. Looking at it from the view of him remedying his financial woes he did what he had to do. His voice the last time we spoke convinced me he wished he hadn't ever considered my offer, let alone him accepting it and agreeing to payment and shipping terms with me. Oh well....

Just thankful to say I have never found myself in his shoes. I'm thinking the fit would be cruel. Evil or Very Mad

Last of the sour grapes from me fellas. Time to sip some sweeter wine.... Wink


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Post by TVill25 on Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:23 pm

ah $1580 I had to do a double take! Makes me feel better. Very Happy Very Happy

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Post by Iceman on Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:50 pm

Oh Tvill! That's right..... I was going to ask you....

Seeings how you would rather play that FX anyway how's about showing a brother some love??

Otherwise stated as "when you selling me your x390", hmmmm? lol!

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Post by TVill25 on Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:01 pm

Your on the top of list Iceman

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Post by Iceman on Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:25 pm

TVill25 wrote:Your on the top of list Iceman

I like your style Tvill........ always have, always will. Cool


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Post by The Chad on Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:27 am

Well that auction completely exceeded my expectations, yowsa!!! affraid Some collector got that, it tripper his trigger and he sold the farm for it. I wonder, anyone on here?!

I wonder if we'll see it relisted soon due to non payment from the highest bidder?! Laughing I doubt it, but that does happen.

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Post by hobster on Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:09 pm

The Chad wrote:Well that auction completely exceeded my expectations, yowsa!!! affraid Some collector got that, it tripper his trigger and he sold the farm for it. I wonder, anyone on here?!

I wonder if we'll see it relisted soon due to non payment from the highest bidder?! Laughing I doubt it, but that does happen.

I think we're all a little suprised with this one. I doubt anyone here got it, we'd probably know unless they are ducking the Iceman. Very Happy

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Post by Iceman on Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:55 pm

Naaah Hobster.... no one need worry about ducking anyone. At the end of the day someone ended up with a beautiful example of an x390 and paid to do so.

I am sure the new owner is quite proud of his new acquisition, and rightly so. It is a beauty!

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