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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Barry on Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:53 am

corsair wrote:IanO wrote: For what it's worth...........black surrounds and zebra bobbins . Am loving the finish
+1
Oh yeah! If zebras are now an option, I'm wif these guyz.

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:59 pm

Zebra's it is then Barry... with black surrounds. Just waiting for some GFS's to arrive Smile

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Barry on Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:42 pm

Excellent!

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:25 pm

Due to Barry's prompting and popular opinion.
These arrived today. Quick delivery as always from GFS. Ordered on the 13th, arrived on the 24th. Not bad from the US.
Things are coming together Smile



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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by hoax on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:41 pm


Damian

That is going to be one kick ass Thunder!!

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Barry on Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:55 pm

Ohhh...getting goose bumples! bounce

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by beavis on Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:30 am

Would have thought the VEH was a strange combination with a classic II, but I am sure I will be shown otherwise soon enough Twisted Evil

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by IanO on Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:45 am

yum,yum,yum,yum,yum,yum,yum..........................................................

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:48 am

beavis wrote:Would have thought the VEH was a strange combination with a classic II, but I am sure I will be shown otherwise soon enough Twisted Evil

What makes you think that beavis?

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by beavis on Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:07 am

Westbone wrote:
beavis wrote:Would have thought the VEH was a strange combination with a classic II, but I am sure I will be shown otherwise soon enough Twisted Evil

What makes you think that beavis?

Well, I remembered reading somewhere (thought it was the gfs site but apparently not) that the VEH's output was low and required boosting the level on the amp, which would have meant that combining it with anything but VEH would turn out tricky. But this was a while ago and the more I read about the two PU you've chosen, the better your choice looks. The fat and crunchy pats might have been too heavy with a classic II.

Just thinking out loud though as the only GFS I have tried are the power rails (muddy in neck position) and crunchy rails (excellent in bridge, as long as you crank up the level).

Can't wait to hear them!

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:07 pm

VEH's are on the hot side, coming in at 11.5 thereabouts. MMK 45's are around 10.5-11.00 on average.
And I just like the sound of alnico II magnets, as in the classic II. They read approx. 7.5 , nice PAF tone. Smile

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by beavis on Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:51 am

Definitely, I think it's nice to have extra oomph in the bridge. With guitars that have "pairs" of similar pups I am always expecting more power when I switch from neck to bridge (though I can't complain about the MMK 45, they are so darn sexy).

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:24 pm

Stuck it altogether.

It's not perfect as this old wide grained ash 'breathes' and even after all these years still has air in the grain.

Painted with nitro-cellulose.

Still have to wire it up.

1 volume, 2 pull/push tones with phase reverse, series/parallel.

Looks a little smarter than an old Thunder.














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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Barry on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:59 pm

*king gorgeous!
Great job Damian

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Guest on Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:20 pm

That burst came out very nice - perfect amount of dark - well done eh

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by corsair on Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:41 pm

That's an attractive colour, I have to say; nice, bro!

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by hoax on Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:59 pm

Top job Damian!!

Is it black on the back or dark stain?

The zebras look great!

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by midhilis on Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:13 pm

Westbone wrote:VEH's are on the hot side, coming in at 11.5 thereabouts. MMK 45's are around 10.5-11.00 on average.
And I just like the sound of alnico II magnets, as in the classic II. They read approx. 7.5 , nice PAF tone. Smile

As the Borg say - resistance is futile. I have one pickup that clocks in at 23K, and it's the weakest pickup I've heard in a long time.Impedance is only part of what makes a pickup.

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by hoax on Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:40 pm

midhilis wrote:
Westbone wrote:VEH's are on the hot side, coming in at 11.5 thereabouts. MMK 45's are around 10.5-11.00 on average.
And I just like the sound of alnico II magnets, as in the classic II. They read approx. 7.5 , nice PAF tone. Smile

As the Borg say - resistance is futile. I have one pickup that clocks in at 23K, and it's the weakest pickup I've heard in a long time.Impedance is only part of what makes a pickup.

I agree wholeheartedly with that statement.

I have had Entwhistles at 16k Ohms which sound more like Pafs and at the other end of the spectrum, miserable little Gibson Melody Maker pickups that would tear your head off at around 4 or 5 k Ohms. It is the Henries that do the damage in my view.

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:51 pm

well that has to be the finest thunder I ever did see! just love the rosewood complimenting the body colour! great job! Trio

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Barry on Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:01 pm

hoax wrote:...It is the Henries that do the damage in my view.
Yeah, especially the "Eighth". He was a real piece of work, eh? clown

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:00 am

Barry wrote:
hoax wrote:...It is the Henries that do the damage in my view.
Yeah, especially the "Eighth". He was a real piece of work, eh? clown

lol!

Thank you for the favourable comments guys, have to get it wired up and try out me Henries.

Talking of which, nothing to do with type and strength of magnets?

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by beavis on Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:15 am

Gosh, this looks at least as good as the original, if not better. Classy job, really! Wish I had those skills.

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by METESKY on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:00 pm

Beautiful job, man. I have to admit to not being a big Thunder fan in the past. I think I'll pay more attention now. ;-)

About how many hours do you think you have in it?


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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by METESKY on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:01 pm

Beautiful job, man. I have to admit to not being a big Thunder fan in the past. I think I'll pay more attention now. ;-)

About how many hours do you think you have in it?


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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by jim on Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:43 am

Damian, your Thunder looks absolutely fabulous !!!
Congratulations! I'm impressed by the stunning results and envy your skills.
What a beauty you've turned it into !
Thanks for sharing this exciting wonderful project !
Brings in mind this post almost exactly a year ago. Must have inspired you I reckon.
http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t2334-westone-thunder-1a
How cool!

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:13 pm

Well thank you jim

I've always been meaning to do it. Just finding the time and yes that post did kick start the seed again.

It's all wired up now.

1 volume, 2 tone with pull/push series/parallel on each.

Haven't had a good play on it as yet. Needs setting up, particularly the brass nut as the frets have been redone.

Initial sounds are good. The bridge pup has a load of Henries:lol: and drives the preamp valves into oblivion.

Neck sounds sweet.

Will set it up properly and give it a good try out.Twisted Evil

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by hoax on Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:11 pm

I 'd rather have my Henries than Professor Grogg's (made up) Faradays.

That boy is so deluded that he is making a cage to keep his Faradays in!!

Wonder what he feeds them? Does he talk to them?

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Barry on Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:00 pm

A Farady in a cage is worth 2 in the bush (or something) Confused 2

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by The Chad on Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:45 am

I'm so glad we finally got this little guy right here...

Anyway, to the amazing Damian, all I can say is WOW:shock: , WELL DONE!

That is the sexiest and sleekest Thunder I've ever seen. Even though it's not red. Laughing

Those Zebras worked a treat, the burst is just right, the grain looks elegant, and the finish looks nice and smooth. Seems to fit together from top to tail.

Have you considered gold tuning pegs?

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:10 pm

The Chad wrote:Have you considered gold tuning pegs?

I was thinking similar thoughts, only in brass. I've been looking for a set of 6 inline brass tuning pegs/machines.....anyone know if and where these are available?

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:31 pm

Never seen brass tuners.

There's a bronzed type going about but have a darker tarnished look.

I was thinking of changing the tuners but didn't fancy throwing another £30 odd at it.

There's plenty of cheap gold tuners but not any cheapies like these.


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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by gittarasaurus on Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:39 pm

hipshot tuners look really good, with a price to match. but they have what you want one piece at a time. so if you need 3 x 3, or 4 x 2, or 6 x 1, on either side, you can get all of what you need, and none of what you don't.

tuners
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or choose some different buttons...
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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:21 pm

Exactly, nice price.

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by The Chad on Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:28 pm

Ah just bite the bullet and finish her off with some nice gold tuners. You can always tarnish them a little to better match the brass. And you could even glue little birdies on there!

Sure would finish her off well...

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:00 pm

Little birdies?

Gave up golf years ago..What a Face

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by grogg on Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:13 am

hoax wrote:I 'd rather have my Henries than Professor Grogg's (made up) Faradays.

That boy is so deluded that he is making a cage to keep his Faradays in!!

Wonder what he feeds them? Does he talk to them?

Hoax

Hey easy tiger, or Ill have to flux you with Lorentz force.

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Barry on Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:39 am

grogg wrote:...Hey easy tiger, or Ill have to flux you with Lorentz force.
Mmmm, sounds naughty. What a Face

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by DuoFuzz on Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:13 pm

I used these Wilkinson Rotomatic copies on my Thunder I, didn't need to re-drill anything either.



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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:07 am

Splashed out and bought some gold tuners £8.00 Sad that hurt.

Will post a pic. when they arrive.

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by The Chad on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:28 am

Westbone wrote:Splashed out and bought some gold tuners £8.00 Sad that hurt.

Will post a pic. when they arrive.

Alright! Ya cheapie.

Now about those gold birdies...

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:06 pm

Noticed all the photos are gone on this post,,,sucks!

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Barry on Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:06 pm

Swine Imageshack! Angry 2

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:47 am

All imageshack photos are gone.
This is the only one I saved...Sad
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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Adey on Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:33 am

To get you photos back, can you sign up for the basic account, re-save your photos elsewhere and then cancel your account again....
Just supposing...

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Westbone on Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:21 am

That's exactly what i've done.
See what happens as they'd lost a good few about a year ago.

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

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This is the result after paying a subscription, what a bunch of C****s.

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Post by Westbone on Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:29 pm

You've cancelled

We just hate to say good-bye!
Well, we guess this means farewell. We will dearly miss you. If you change your mind, and we hope you will, we will welcome you back with open arms.
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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by punkyjam67 on Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:01 pm

What an absolute shower of sh*te!

Rubbing salt in the wound, I know, but it shows the importance of keeping a backup whenever you can - all this 'cloud-based' malarkey is ripe for disaster in this old Luddite's mind...

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Re: Thunder I rebuild

Post by Barry on Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:31 pm

punkyjam67 wrote:What an absolute shower of sh*te!
... all this 'cloud-based' malarkey is ripe for disaster in this old Luddite's mind...
Absolutely right!
Cloud computing...I don't trust it for a minute.

Back in the bad old days we used have something called Client-Server configuration. The "Client" (you) was a euphemism for "slave".

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Post by corsair on Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:39 am

Shocked  That's appalling.... you've gotta think that Imageshack will go under in this day and age with that sort of attitude; too many people connected by the web to piss about with that f****d-up worldview!

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