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Post by Westbone on Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:48 pm

With a name like Iroko it sounds hard and it is. Used for flooring ect.

Gun oil, try looking for Tung oil.

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Post by Barry on Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:51 pm

What you want is gun stock oil, not the lubricating variety.
Google is your friend: LINK

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Post by IanO on Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:54 pm

Many thanks all....am off going googling! D'ya reckon Iroko would be good or bad as a body wood? Close to mahogany in tone?

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:27 pm

pics as promised, excuse the awful camera technique




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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:33 pm

hopefully the Warman pickups arrive tomorrow 3 Propoganda single coils in black for very little cash...
http://www.warmanguitars.co.uk/single-coil-pickups.html

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Brainfertilizer on Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:14 pm

Woo-hoo! That's as plywood as you can get!

And a tele neck?!?

Hardtail, too...sweet!

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:19 pm

No not a tele neck, its the original neck, but it sustained some damage many years ago, 2 huge chunks snapped off from both extremeties, so a little work with a pencil and a jigsaw......

gotta love me some hardtail action....not the original bridge obviously, that was an ashtray deal, now hammered flat and acting as a splint on my sofa!......damn kids

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Post by grogg on Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:33 pm

Like the copper shielding, very neat.

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Post by Barry on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:02 pm

Love the layered look...
methinks the copper's worth more than the guitar! Razz

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:05 pm

lol! the copper Slug Repellent was about 3......so yes, you'd be about right

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:17 am

having some problems with my wiring, 1 vol, 2 tones all 500k, 5 way switch with 7 lugs, bridge tone jumper.

My neck tone is acting like a volume control and I cant find a way to tone it up! I bought the pups and harness pre-wired from warman, initially he had the wrong pot on the neck tone, but just replaced it with the correct pot, and still the same.

this is his setup http://www.warmanguitars.co.uk/wiring_diagram_downloads/Strat-5-way.pdf
and this is mine


both are identical, execpt for my bridge tone jumper, can any of you wonderful folks see an obvious issue and correct it? this has been going on since february and Josi Warman isnt helping....I just want to play my baby!

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Westbone on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:48 am

Just google strat wiring..duh!

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:55 am

obviously! cant find a strat diagram with this switch and setup on google, I just thought I would ask a bunch of guys who know their stuff....

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by gittarasaurus on Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:42 am

sorry to say, but that warman diagram is defective.
here is a link to another....
strat wiring
you will need to change the connections on the 'tone 1' pot to make it like the new drawing


explain the bridge tone jumper you added? is that to get some tone control for the bridge pup?

my answer to tone control on the bridge pup is a quickie.
it is the one mod i do to most of my strats, change the tone controls.
Tone-1 remains the same (neck).
i change Tone-2 from control of the middle pickup to control of the bridge pickup, leaving the middle pickup with no tone control. (i find i rare play the middle alone so the control is more useful on the bridge)
this is easily done by simply moving the (yellow) wire connecting the tone-2 pot to the 5-way switch. move it over one contact on the 5-way from the middle pup to the bridge pup, done.

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:13 pm

thanks for the reply, if you see the warman diagram, the switch is a 7 lug version, not 8 like the link you provided, so the lug configuration doesnt match up.

The bridge tone jumper is just that, taking a jumper from the middle tone lug to the spare lug, so I have both middle and bridge using the same tone pot, I do use middle pup quite often so really need both.

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:49 pm

well, Ive tried every possible configuration, including the link guitarsaurus posted, and no joy, I can only assume the switch is either broken or more likely cheap chinese sh*te.....new switch it is then! not f*****g happy Evil or Very Mad

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by gittarasaurus on Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:17 pm

looking at the photo now....
it looks like the reason why your tone is acting like a volume pot is because the tone circuit should not go to ground at tone 1. it must pass thru the capacitor before going to ground for tone control.

you need to unsolder the center lug of the tone-1 pot and remove it from the shell.
then run a wire from center lug on tone-1 to lug 3 on tone-2, the same place where the tone cap is soldered in.



i would also check all the functions of the 5-way with a meter before removing it.

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:14 pm

gittarasaurus Thank you! you nailed it, i did as you said and also removed the ground from that tone pots case, BINGO!
I really thought I had gone through every combination, a sttep learning curve this is!
Thanks so much......much more help than Mr Warman! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by gittarasaurus on Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:02 pm

my motto is:

Don't retire it; Rewire it!

Rock On! cheers

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by gittarasaurus on Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:07 pm

you did indeed, follow the diagram exactly.
but the diagram was wrong. Sad
someone at warman should correct that drawing.

glad i could help! Very Happy

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:39 pm

His Diagrams suck, but his pickups are superb!

just installed his Zebra 2's in my washburn rs10v, to replace the flavourless EMG selects......boy oh boy these zebras sing!
the single coils in this strat are great too...10 for the set...money very well spent Smile





thanks again...

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by hoax on Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:08 pm


Glad you like the Warmans Sarge. I have certainly found them good for pickups and other items. I might try their zebras on your recommendation.

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Westbone on Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:56 pm

All that copper should increase it's value Laughing

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Barry on Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:12 pm

Good on ya Mike.
Glad we have someone around who is great at circuits!

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:32 pm

hoax wrote:
Glad you like the Warmans Sarge. I have certainly found them good for pickups and other items. I might try their zebras on your recommendation.

Hoax

I wasnt sure about the zebras when I first installed them as they are so dark, and I mean dark!, but a little distortion and they are very bluesy, almost gutteral.
It may be the mahogany body and neck helping them along the moody path or the .47k cap....I might go for a .22 and see if it brightens it up a touch.
dont go for them unless you like em moody!

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Re: my old ply jap strat refurb

Post by hoax on Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:55 am


Stick in a treble bleed capacitor on your volume pots and you will be able to roll off volume without making things even darker.

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