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Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:24 pm

I figured I would name this topic Restore since the last 350 I got has a questionable crack in the finish at the neck join. The only way to know for sure is to either apply pressure and see if there is a space there, or sand it down. I know Gibsons often get this headstock crack due to a lame design where they have a one piece mahagony neck. All the grain is in one direction and it's thinnest point is the neck join (which is why I have never owned a Gibson). The 350 has a 5 piece neck which is nicer looking and much stronger. But I have my doubts on this crack and want to know for sure.


My next project was to build a guitar from scratch, but since I am saving for a wedding I cannot afford to buy the couple of tools I need to get started.

So, I hate to say to the purists out there I need to keep a project going then this one has stepped into first place.

I am going to take down the finish on my 350MA (the one with the BMD bridge) down to bare wood. If I find a crack, I will repair it. If it is only a crack in the finish, then I think I will refinish it in a different color.

I understand the rarity of such guitar, and never plan on selling it, so I think I can sleep at night with this decision.

I will still have a stock 350MA, but think that this one may end up being really cool.

As Always I will document the progress and as some know, it takes me a long time to complete a project ( the 12 string took me 10 months?)



I imagine anyone would like to see a 350 sanded down and naked - what a great design, and I promise to make the finish on this like it came out of a pro shop. I undestand how cool, rare, and awesome this thing is, and will do my best to make this my best project yet.

Wish me luck folks.

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Westbone on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:22 pm

Post a picture of your crack.

Seems alot of work for what?????

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by corsair on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:27 pm

Go hard, mate!! I, too, have an itch with the Urchin being over halfway finished but am heading in the direction of a twin neck....

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:14 am

Westbone wrote:Post a picture of your crack.

Seems alot of work for what?????

For self gratification I guess. I think I can make this old 350 look better than it currently looks. I think I can make it look very cool. I know it is blasphemous to the die hards, but I am not a die hard guy. I know it is a great guitar, and in my opinon I will will make it better.

I'm thinking green stain, maybe blue over the flame?

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:15 am

corsair wrote:Go hard, mate!! I, too, have an itch with the Urchin being over halfway finished but am heading in the direction of a twin neck....
You going to make a twin neck?

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by corsair on Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:05 am

A big +1 to green stain, and yeah.... A 12/6.....

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:59 am

Westbone wrote:Post a picture of your crack.

this is not the time or the place for that kind of shenanigans!

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Iceman on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:44 am

Sgt. Vimes wrote:
Westbone wrote:Post a picture of your crack.

…THERE IS NEVER A time or A place for that kind of shenanigans!


Fixed!!

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Westbone on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:45 am

lol!

You've a one track mind and that's a dirt track.

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Iceman on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:46 am

Black(or Charcoal) Burst out of the question then, Pat?

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:57 am

Iceman wrote:
Sgt. Vimes wrote:
Westbone wrote:Post a picture of your crack.

…THERE IS NEVER A time or A place for that kind of shenanigans!


Fixed!!


not even in college? wow

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Iceman on Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:05 am

lol! lol!







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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by beavis on Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:21 pm

Wow guys, off topic in so little time! Impressive.
Laughing

Sounds like a good idea to me, but I'm no purist. Looking forward to the pictures. I am sure this crack is going to open the way to a better understanding of things for me.

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by grogg on Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:29 pm

Sarcaster, I knew as soon as you got this you wouldnt be able to resist doing some stuff to it. Sorry, boringly back on topic.

My twopennorth, the shape of the guitar is very organic, whatever you do needs to complement that.

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:32 pm

I for one, would love to see it stripped down naked, waxed and unstained Smile

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Barry on Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:53 pm

beavis wrote:Wow guys, off topic in so little time! Impressive...
Yeah, and for once it wasn't me who started it. clown

Black burst eh? Hmmm....

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:31 am

Iceman wrote:Black(or Charcoal) Burst out of the question then, Pat?

Haven't tried a burst before, so I think I'll hold off on making this the first

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:42 pm

corsair wrote:Go hard, mate!! I, too, have an itch with the Urchin being over halfway finished but am heading in the direction of a twin neck....

Building one???

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:45 pm

grogg wrote:Sarcaster, I knew as soon as you got this you wouldnt be able to resist doing some stuff to it. Sorry, boringly back on topic.

My twopennorth, the shape of the guitar is very organic, whatever you do needs to complement that.

you sound like someone who has known me awhile - I always take good and make it better or mess it up trying

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by hobster on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:59 am

I for one am looking forward to this project, i'd love to see one stripped down. Sounds like you have some cool ideas Sarc, i'm sure she'll turn out great.

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by The Chad on Wed May 02, 2012 4:06 pm

Would look awesome with a super high gloss finish, if you made the grain really pop. Like Carvin does with their guitars. Simply stunning. It would be the nicest looking 350MA we'd ever seen. IF you didn't stain it weird colors Sarc... Laughing

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Thu May 10, 2012 9:09 pm

Sanding starts this saturday. We will see what this bird has underneath all the dings, scrapes and scratches. Hopefully nothing too bad to deal with once down to pure wood.

My one concern is the logo on the headstock - i'm not sure if that is inlaid, or if it is some film that is sooooo thin that i will sand it away. Anyone have any knowledge on the headstock logo inlay on the 350's?



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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Westbone on Thu May 10, 2012 9:23 pm

Think your crazy. Why not just repair the damaged areas.
As for the logo, you'll find out when you get there, good luck

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Thu May 10, 2012 10:07 pm

Westbone wrote:Think your crazy. Why not just repair the damaged areas.
As for the logo, you'll find out when you get there, good luck

I know, I know - This guitar is beat up....It may have a crack, it may not. My Intent is to take a 25yr old guitar and make it look new. If it does have a crack _I'll fix it, if it is just a crack in the finish along the typical headstock crack line, then that will be gone too.

But at the end of the day the guitar will not look beat up, and may have a different hue. Any suggestions?


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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Thu May 10, 2012 10:09 pm

And for the Westone purists put there _ I will not do a thing to my other 350 Smile

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