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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:17 pm


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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:19 pm

Westbone wrote:Post a picture of your crack.

Seems alot of work for what?????



Sorry eh- but this

neck is cracked eh

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Iceman on Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:13 pm

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I'm keeping a clamp on it until I get it glued



YIKES!! Not the minor finish fissure you had hoped for, eh Pat? How far around the neck radius does that extend? Almost looks like a poorly set scarf join. Suspect

Mine had only a finish crack (in nearly the same spot) due to the fingerboard seperating. 2 different viscosities of SuperGlue and a buffing wheel got it back on track though.

I cannot recall the auction listing at the time having detailed the wear & tear (especially the frets) to any degree. Did it? confused

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Post by Iceman on Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:23 pm

I just retraced your earlier posts and noticed your comment on the headstock logo. Did it seem to be a decal or just some sort of paint?

Whatever it is it certainly represents itself as inlaid MOP. I suppose the x390's are the same then...

Black logo with black hardware will look very sharp if you are heading towards the color I am imagining you are considering...

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Westbone on Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:10 am

sarcaster wrote:
Westbone wrote:Post a picture of your crack.

Seems alot of work for what?????



Sorry eh- but this

neck is cracked eh



Sad days eh!

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:41 pm

Not so sad, It's good practice too fix it. THe crack itself is mainly under the fingerboard, a lot of the bad look is the finish cracks. It should be an easy fix.

I am a bit disappointed that the logo was not an inlay, but hey- no big deal.

This bird is gonna look amazing when done. I just hope some of the dings in it aren't too deep to pull up with water and heat, we shall see

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by METESKY on Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:45 pm

<---- a naked lady. So sad, but so... exciting, eh? ;-)

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:42 pm



Here's a good shot of the crack as it looks on the other side of the neck

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:49 pm



All done with the rough sanding on this one. I gotta say the 390's and 350's are a lot of work. The Spectrum took about 40 minutes to sand, and this one took over 4 hours total and I still have some finish sanding to do.

The real tough spot is where the neck meets the body - hard to sand the body without getting the fretboard too much. I need to make a good flat sand stick to get in that corner.

No more dings or dents in the body or neck, I got them all out either by sanding or dampening the wood, placing a hot iron on a wet cloth to lift the grain, and then sanding smooth - works great.

I'll probably do another hour at least on the finish sanding to get all the little sandpaper scratches out so the stain or dye doesn't stand out in them.

dang this is a purty guitar

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:51 pm



Neck is all glued up and is drying. I stuck a small wedge in there to make more room for the applicator. Made sure glue covered all I could and clamp it down.

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by hoax on Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:47 pm

You don't have to plane the board to get rid of the furrows. I have used a method several times involving a sharp blade, superglue and wood dust.

I have restored about half a dozen Matsumoku guitars using the same method with excellent results.

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:08 pm

hoax wrote:You don't have to plane the board to get rid of the furrows. I have used a method several times involving a sharp blade, superglue and wood dust.

I have restored about half a dozen Matsumoku guitars using the same method with excellent results.

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hmmm - do you mean using the dust to fill the furrows? Do you have any before and after pics - would be a great post to show your method.

I have a cheap Mako guitar that has just as bad of a board and terrible frets that I am going to "practice" on. If I can get that board looking nice, then I think I can get any board nice Smile

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Barry on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:18 pm

hoax wrote:You don't have to plane the board to get rid of the furrows. I have used a method several times involving a sharp blade, superglue and wood dust.
I have restored about half a dozen Matsumoku guitars using the same method with excellent results.
I'm sure this will work just as well as the solder-in-the-frets trick. Rolling Eyes

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:12 pm

Since all is going well on this one - i just put in my order for the stain and clear coat materials



this is gonna look goooood

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by hoax on Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:41 pm

Barry wrote:
hoax wrote:You don't have to plane the board to get rid of the furrows. I have used a method several times involving a sharp blade, superglue and wood dust.
I have restored about half a dozen Matsumoku guitars using the same method with excellent results.
I'm sure this will work just as well as the solder-in-the-frets trick. Rolling Eyes

Pour ya 'nuther pint Graham?

I can't show a before picture as I did not take them. I can't show an after as you really can't see the repairs (they are that good!!)

Here is the link

http://fingerlakesguitarrepair.com/fender-jazzmaster-fretboard-wear/

I can tell you that Damian also uses this method.

Damn doubting Thomas !!

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Barry on Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:46 pm

Well, ya learn summit new every day eh? I suppose if the frets are already out...And it makes sense to build UP rather than sand DOWN...And it looks OK (sort of). But I still gotta wonder how long it'll withstand string impact and scraping before yer back where ya started. Neutral

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:13 pm

Barry wrote: But I still gotta wonder how long it'll withstand string impact and scraping before yer back where ya started. Neutral

A lot longer if one is to go with jumbo's I guess.
so a good fix for rosewood, what about maple?

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by hoax on Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:44 pm

The point is that you don't need to take the frets out. Also, I can assure you that a superglue/dust mix is rock hard and much harder to sand than the original board, so there are no issues regarding longevity.

Not really any good for a maple board as the colour doesn't match for some reason.

I use my original scraping dust from cleaning the board as the filler.

This method really does work extremely well.

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Barry on Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:42 pm

hoax wrote:The point is that you don't need to take the frets out...
Can't see doing a badly mucked up board with the frets still in. 'Twould be really annoying methinks. But for a couple of spot repairs, perhaps...

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:15 am

Toughest spot to sand on the guitar for me is where the body meets the neck, specifically the fretboard. Its tough to get into that corner, so here is the solution I used yesterday. Tape the fretboard and the one side of the block, and only have sandpaper on the bottom side of the block - it worked really good.


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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:16 am

The repair to the neck is all done as well, sanded it smooth and I am ready to stain this guitar - come on UPS, hurry up, get that stain here!

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by corsair on Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:33 pm

Liking this.... a lot!

greenburst, blueburst, or just a boring old wood colour?!

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Iceman on Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:47 pm

affraid OIY!... OIY THERE!! affraid

BLACKburst or go home... Twisted Evil


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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:18 am

Sorry folks, no bursting to be done on this one. Gonna be a one color deal. I hope I can get the flame to come up a bit stronger than it was originally. I may lay down some black first and then sand out the high points and then do the color, sand the high points lightly, and possibly another coat of color. We'll see - I haven't stained a guitar before so let's hope it comes out good.

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Barry on Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:20 pm

sarcaster wrote:...I haven't stained a guitar before so let's hope it comes out good.
Lookin' mighty fine Sarc. You should consider a sealer first to prevent excessive "wicking" of the colour into the raw wood. Also makes it a tad easier to make corrections or changes. Laughing

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Re: Pantera X350MA Restore

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:29 pm

Barry wrote:
sarcaster wrote:...I haven't stained a guitar before so let's hope it comes out good.
Lookin' mighty fine Sarc. You should consider a sealer first to prevent excessive "wicking" of the colour into the raw wood. Also makes it a tad easier to make corrections or changes. Laughing

I didn't use sealer figuring that the maple would not be very pourous. Now on the mahogony neck pieces may be a different thing, but we will see as the staining has begun!

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