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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:37 pm

What do you guys want but cant find cheap. I'm not talking 59 LP or even a new LP, but the odd rare guitar like a 350MA that you want and can't get due to price.



This is one of mine - The Neal Schon guitar he produced for a short time - this is a poor example of one for sale right now and way over priced:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1986-Jackson-Neal-Schon-Guitar-21-of-200-/180904562071?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a1ec08d97

Old USA BC Rich Bichs are soo out of range price wish but would be one for me - this is a great example:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BC-Rich-Bich-Supreme-USA-/300710969722?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4603c5417a

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Post by anaerobe on Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:23 pm

Yamaha SG 2000, or even cooler an SG 3000.

I found an SG 200 through neck, light single piece body, killer pickups for $200. But no one sells their big brothers for cheap anymore.

Chris Poland plays em... they are a very fine instrument.


Here is an article on 'em. Pretty good info, but for the pricing. I've not found one under $1500.

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Since guitar virtuoso Carlos Santana played the SG2000 for several years, you know that there is something special about this guitar. In fact, the SG2000 is one of the most collectible and valuable Yamaha guitars in the used market today, and there is plenty of good reason for that.

Yamaha was founded in Japan in 1897 by Torakusu Yamaha as a piano and reed organ manufacturer. Yamaha entered the guitar market in 1941 when they announced that they were going to start building classical guitars, but full production didn’t start until after World War II in 1946. After the guitar boom of the mid-sixties, Yamaha introduced electric and acoustic steel-string guitars in 1966. Yamaha has been producing a variety of guitars ever since, including several high-end, hand-crafted instruments. However, the bulk of their production is targeted for entry-level and intermediate guitar players, with price points between $200 and $500.

The SG2000 is certainly not one of Yamaha’s entry-level models. It was introduced in 1976, and Yamaha contacted Carlos Santana shortly thereafter to see if he was interested in endorsing the instrument. He actually appeared on the cover of Guitar Player magazine in June of 1978 holding the SG2000, but the article explained that Santana actually redesigned and introduced many of the features on the original SG2000. According to Santana, the guitar was too light and didn’t resonate like he wanted. He recommended making the guitar heavier with thicker woods and installing a brass plate underneath, connected to the tailpiece (later patented as the Sustain Plate). Yamaha also used a threepiece laminated neck with two pieces of mahogany surrounding the main maple part that was patented as the T-Cross System. All these features, and the fact that the guitar was built very well, led to a great playing guitar. Santana absolutely loved the sustain this guitar could create, and it was the best guitar Yamaha had produced thus far.

Aside from the endorsement of Carlos Santana and the unique features that the SG2000 utilized, there were other factors that have made this guitar valuable today. The late seventies and early eighties was a turbulent time for many American guitar manufacturers and the big three of Gibson, Fender, and Martin were all in danger of failing. Yamaha was willing to experiment and get away from the traditional side of building guitars, which made them innovative. Also, Yamaha was one of the first Japanese manufacturers to actually set up their guitars in the US after shipping them from Japan. Long story short, the SG2000 was one of the best guitars available in the late seventies and early eighties, and it could possibly be the best Japanese guitar of the time.

For around a thousand dollars today, a buyer can pick from a basic selection of new, US-built guitars. A used late-seventies to early- eighties SG2000 typically sells for between $900 and $1200 in the used market, which is very comparable to a new US guitar. Thirty years ago, Japan was considered by the guitar industry the way China is today. However, this view has changed over the years and very few guitars actually come out of Japan anymore. While spending around $1000 on a late-seventies Japanese guitar may seem ludicrous, the market has shown that the demand is certainly there.

You also may notice that the SG prefix is very similar to a certain brand from one of the most popular U.S. builders today. When the SG Series from Yamaha became widespread in the early eighties, Gibson put a stop to it, and all Yamaha SG models were changed to SBG in the US. Carlos Santana hasn’t endorsed Yamaha for years; he was one of Paul Reed Smith’s first customers in the early eighties. Santana has several signature models with PRS and continues to play them exclusively today. I’m sure Santana along with you will continue to treasure this guitar for years to come!

Source: The History of Yamaha Guitars— Over 60 Years of Innovation by Mark Kasulen and Matt Blackett


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Post by corsair on Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:04 am

Each time a Vantage VA912 has showed itself, I've had other commitments, which pisses me off greatly..

I'd like a APII PE - DLX KV in Ivory, too but the only one I've ever seen went for many many more dollares than I've got spare....

I'd simply kill for a Rick 360/12, but don't have the kings' ransom lying about to buy one..

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Post by beavis on Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:28 am

A good substitute to the Yamaha SGs are the Yamaha SFs, I have one myself and it's a truly pro guitar. I heard that they share the same pickups. And they're cheap because Santana didn't snort coke on them.

My dream guitar would be an old Carvin DC400. Or just the 200 like Jason Becker. I nearly bought one with a scalloped neck for 550$ (!!) before shying out once I realized the hardtail bridge had been replaced by a kahler flyer. Seems like a risky operation to me and I didn't have the opportunity to try it out, so there goes.

Saw one of those Schon guitars in the hard rock café in Copenhagen just 2 days ago. Their headstocks are oversized, but that might have been those long-island ice-teas.

Always dreamt of having a old BC Rich Mockingbird and John (yes him) recently got me into VA900s.

Of course, I wouldn't mind an X390 or 350, but I'm rambling. (man is this smiley for me!!)

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Post by Iceman on Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:13 am

Electra x910

O'Hagen Shark

Gibson E2

Ibanez Destroyer

Getting the picture here?... Thinking Idea

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:51 am

Iceman wrote:Electra x910

O'Hagen Shark

Gibson E2

Ibanez Destroyer

Getting the picture here?...



My friend is selling an ibanez destroyer at this very moment : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ibanez-DT-155-Def-Leppard-Phil-Collen-Guitar-Local-Pickup-Only-/290726743423?pt=Guitar&hash=item43b0aa0d7f

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Post by Westbone on Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:27 am

none:lol:

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Post by Iceman on Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:08 pm

Westbone wrote:none:lol:

Sayeth the last of the big suspenders.... right? Roll on Floor Laff Dance 1

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Post by Iceman on Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:10 pm

Yo Sarc! He will not ship and he puts it on ebay? WTH!!??!! Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Warrn on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:04 am

Currently? Anything over $50. Neutral

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Post by beavis on Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:16 am

Warrn wrote:Currently? Anything over $50. Neutral

Those are the best!

Wouldn't mind a Sky guitar now that I think of it.

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Post by colt933 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:42 am

sarcaster wrote:This is one of mine - The Neal Schon guitar he produced for a short time - this is a poor example of one for sale right now and way over priced:

Ed Roman purchased the remaining inventory of parts for the Schon guitars and was building them a few years ago. But Ed died a while back but there seem to be some available still:

Schon guitars on Ed Roman

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:33 pm

colt933 wrote:
sarcaster wrote:This is one of mine - The Neal Schon guitar he produced for a short time - this is a poor example of one for sale right now and way over priced:

Ed Roman purchased the remaining inventory of parts for the Schon guitars and was building them a few years ago. But Ed died a while back but there seem to be some available still:

Schon guitars on Ed Roman



I've seen those - they have only gotten more $$$$ over the years. I had thought about getting the blank and finishing it from there, but still hoping to find one all in one piece. Ed died? hadn't heard that. He actually did work on one of my PRS's years ago.

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:36 pm

Iceman wrote:Yo Sarc! He will not ship and he puts it on ebay? WTH!!??!! Evil or Very Mad



If you want it I will ship it _ it think he likes dealing locally. I haven't played the destroyer, but I have played the Chafin he also has for sale - that one is awesome. If you want me to borrow the Ibanez, I can check it out, set it up and let you know how it plays/sounds

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Post by Iceman on Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:10 pm

That would be sweet if you have the time. He is going to have to come down in price somewhat however to make it into my neighborhood, budget-wise.

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Post by eyebulger on Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:09 am

Up till now it had always been a APII PE1000/1500


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Post by IanO on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:10 pm

This
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230754356799?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
Or this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160801092524?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
or even this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-PRS-Paul-Reed-Smith-SWAMPASH-USA-SEAFOAM-AAAAA-NECK-STUNNING-FAST-SHIP-/160823047397?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D160801092524%252B160801092524%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D117533095009054935

I've never played one so hope they would live up to my expectations.
This wouldn't be bad
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1241&bih=593&tbm=isch&tbnid=jBJ9XaTVaeE9eM:&imgrefurl=http://www.izideal.fr/p7851259/comparatif-guitares-electriques/achat-lag-roxanne-master-3000-spalt-maple/&docid=YrLp0jklKaua7M&imgurl=http://images.izideal.com/img/product/7851259/l/fr/lag-roxanne-master-3000-spalt-maple.jpeg&w=600&h=600&ei=R-rlT_3EJoqA8wOKkOHVCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=387&vpy=246&dur=5828&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=104&ty=148&sig=108909411592497996221&page=1&tbnh=129&tbnw=129&start=0&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:0,i:101
this i have played and it was luuurrrvvvllleeeeee!

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Post by westcoaster on Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:37 pm

That seafoam PRS looks stunning - until you see the amateur night at PRS design dept bolt on neck heel. Looks like easy access all the way up to the tenth fret.
For that amount of cash I want a helluv a lot more than the prs kudos (p250 anyone?)

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Post by G.A.S. man on Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:11 pm

Would have tobe Albert King's flying V ...
Though a Westone raider would be cool too So Happy

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Post by Barry on Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:50 pm

Don't know about "always wanted" but this is on my current want list: Axis Super Sport
In black cherry burst please. Ta ever so! Coffee Drinker

Oh what the heck, let's have a Brian Setzer Gretsch in candy apple red. Ta again. Dance 1

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:19 pm

I used to have an Axis copy, by a chinese brand named Mc2 ! green photo-flame finish, lovely maple neck and it was heavier than the mother-in-law.
currently negotiating re-owning it, wish I had never let it go No

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Post by Barry on Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:55 pm

Definitely not the same Axis! Click the link above to see it. This is from Music Man/Ernie Ball. All American.

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Post by Guest on Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:59 pm

One of mine is on ebay right now - but no one is looking at it and I can;t afford it right now - still saving mode. Not telling ya the brand, until I get one. Don;t need the competition Smile

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Post by Iceman on Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:04 pm

sarcaster wrote:One of mine is on ebay right now - but no one is looking at it and I can;t afford it right now - still saving mode. Not telling ya the brand, until I get one. Don;t need the competition Smile

Is it still going to be on ebay after you get hitched??

C'mon man, spill it... Thinking

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:13 am

Barry wrote:Definitely not the same Axis! Click the link above to see it. This is from Music Man/Ernie Ball. All American.

yeah I saw that, beautiful....very very beautiful

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Post by Westbone on Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:33 am

[quote="sarcaster"]One of mine is on ebay right now - but no one is looking at it and I can;t afford it right now - still saving mode. Not telling ya the brand, until I get one. Don;t need the competition Smile[/quote]

You'll only sand the name off anyway:lol!:

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Post by blackstrat on Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:32 pm

A tokai Love Rock LP LS160 or LS150. They seem to blow away Gibson LP'S

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:58 pm

Yeah I know its an old thread, but I need to update.

seen a few of THESE

 never played one obviously, but I hope it plays as well as I would expect.
the maple, blue and concord-esque plate is just superb.
now having a full on wet dream for one.

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Post by bobroberts on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:54 am

Westone Prestige, and Ibanez Artist. Sad

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Post by Kevh on Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:55 pm

When I had my first guitar, a Thunder Jet, my mate had an Ivory(?) Yamaha  SG1000(?) and that sure was a beautiful thing. He  treated it better than his girlfriend of the time thats for sure. After every session he'd spend as long rubbing it down with silk as we had done playing. My thunder would have had a string wipe at the most.

But for me it would have to be a beautifully capped 250. Maybe one day, the only ones i can actually afford at the moment seem to be hanging in droves from the local cash converters. even when i've been in with the tools to even try to get them playing properly i get treated as a troublemaker...'you sayin our guitars arent playin proper?' 'yes, does anybody here understand what an octave is?, and why your guitars aren't playing them fretted 12 frets higher?' This is the point where we verbally agree i ought to leave.

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Post by Westbone on Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:49 am

Don't know of any shops that'll allow you to take your tools in and start fiddling about on their guitars.

No wonder you agreed to leave.

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Post by Guest on Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:20 am



 Another one to cross off my list.
The VERY rare Signature Guitar Company guitars.  I just snaked an Oracle for 1/2 what they normally go for. 
 
I like my Westones but although this looks like a generic 80's guitar, it is an absolute joy to play and the sounds are amazing.  There is another one of these on ebay at the moment for 1700 USD.  I wouldn't pay that, but I would put this guitar above all that I own other than one of my PRS's and I own a lot of guitars.

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Post by J.a.c.aranda87 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:00 pm

Holy Alex Lifeson, Sarc! Never seen one of those outside of the Show of Hands video. Nice find!

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:36 pm

J.a.c.aranda87 wrote:Holy Alex Lifeson, Sarc! Never seen one of those outside of the Show of Hands video. Nice find!
Actually a pawn shop has a Signature Oracle on Ebay at the moment for 499 starting bid - VERY low for these guitars - scoop it up

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Post by colt933 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:36 pm

I always wanted a nice Les Paul - a standard, custom, or classic.  I don't care.  But it should be nice looking, play like buttah, and have tone to die for.  It should feel light and sound heavy.  That is all.

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Post by Barry on Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:12 pm

Sounds good to me Colt.
I personally set up all LP's at the store to play like whale snot. But buttah's good too. Razz

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Post by punkyjam67 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:30 am

colt933 wrote:I always wanted a nice Les Paul - a standard, custom, or classic.  I don't care.  But it should be nice looking, play like buttah, and have tone to die for.  It should feel light and sound heavy.  That is all.
This one - a 2001 Studio Plus in 'Desert Burst' - that I owned a few years ago certainly ticked all the boxes (IMHO), but in the end, it was TOO nice & I was almost frightened to play it just in case I marked it (the lacquer was very soft, as I found out to my cost!).



I just have two LPs now: a very battered wine red Studio with an ugly lump on the back of the headstock where a break was poorly repaired (solid as a rock, but looks like sh*t!); & a black Standard that's been through the wars a bit, too. Not much to look at, it's true, but true workhorses. That said though, they haven't left the guitar stand since I got my Pantera back... Wink

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Post by colt933 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:03 am

I never really wanted an Explorer, until a 1982 model walked in the door at my store.  I played it and man, it played great after just a little setup work.  They seller was the original owner.  He played it live for 10 years but it had been hanging on his wall for 20 years since.  It had lots of play wear - he had obviously loved it.  And the tone - well it's the best sounding guitar I have.  And it cost about half what a Les Paul Standard/classic would cost.

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Post by The Chad on Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:17 pm

Explorers... I'm craving an Explorer II, Tobacco burst.  Just a great looking guitar with tons of personality.

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Post by Barry on Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:20 pm

The Chad wrote:Explorers... I'm craving an Explorer II, Tobacco burst.  Just a great looking guitar with tons of personality.
Fun guitars. But you'd better be prepared to stand all night. No sitting allowed (or possible!). Razz

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