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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:37 pm

What do you guys want but cant find cheap. I'm not talking 59 LP or even a new LP, but the odd rare guitar like a 350MA that you want and can't get due to price.



This is one of mine - The Neal Schon guitar he produced for a short time - this is a poor example of one for sale right now and way over priced:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1986-Jackson-Neal-Schon-Guitar-21-of-200-/180904562071?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a1ec08d97

Old USA BC Rich Bichs are soo out of range price wish but would be one for me - this is a great example:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BC-Rich-Bich-Supreme-USA-/300710969722?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4603c5417a

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Post by anaerobe on Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:23 pm

Yamaha SG 2000, or even cooler an SG 3000.

I found an SG 200 through neck, light single piece body, killer pickups for $200. But no one sells their big brothers for cheap anymore.

Chris Poland plays em... they are a very fine instrument.


Here is an article on 'em. Pretty good info, but for the pricing. I've not found one under $1500.

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Since guitar virtuoso Carlos Santana played the SG2000 for several years, you know that there is something special about this guitar. In fact, the SG2000 is one of the most collectible and valuable Yamaha guitars in the used market today, and there is plenty of good reason for that.

Yamaha was founded in Japan in 1897 by Torakusu Yamaha as a piano and reed organ manufacturer. Yamaha entered the guitar market in 1941 when they announced that they were going to start building classical guitars, but full production didn’t start until after World War II in 1946. After the guitar boom of the mid-sixties, Yamaha introduced electric and acoustic steel-string guitars in 1966. Yamaha has been producing a variety of guitars ever since, including several high-end, hand-crafted instruments. However, the bulk of their production is targeted for entry-level and intermediate guitar players, with price points between $200 and $500.

The SG2000 is certainly not one of Yamaha’s entry-level models. It was introduced in 1976, and Yamaha contacted Carlos Santana shortly thereafter to see if he was interested in endorsing the instrument. He actually appeared on the cover of Guitar Player magazine in June of 1978 holding the SG2000, but the article explained that Santana actually redesigned and introduced many of the features on the original SG2000. According to Santana, the guitar was too light and didn’t resonate like he wanted. He recommended making the guitar heavier with thicker woods and installing a brass plate underneath, connected to the tailpiece (later patented as the Sustain Plate). Yamaha also used a threepiece laminated neck with two pieces of mahogany surrounding the main maple part that was patented as the T-Cross System. All these features, and the fact that the guitar was built very well, led to a great playing guitar. Santana absolutely loved the sustain this guitar could create, and it was the best guitar Yamaha had produced thus far.

Aside from the endorsement of Carlos Santana and the unique features that the SG2000 utilized, there were other factors that have made this guitar valuable today. The late seventies and early eighties was a turbulent time for many American guitar manufacturers and the big three of Gibson, Fender, and Martin were all in danger of failing. Yamaha was willing to experiment and get away from the traditional side of building guitars, which made them innovative. Also, Yamaha was one of the first Japanese manufacturers to actually set up their guitars in the US after shipping them from Japan. Long story short, the SG2000 was one of the best guitars available in the late seventies and early eighties, and it could possibly be the best Japanese guitar of the time.

For around a thousand dollars today, a buyer can pick from a basic selection of new, US-built guitars. A used late-seventies to early- eighties SG2000 typically sells for between $900 and $1200 in the used market, which is very comparable to a new US guitar. Thirty years ago, Japan was considered by the guitar industry the way China is today. However, this view has changed over the years and very few guitars actually come out of Japan anymore. While spending around $1000 on a late-seventies Japanese guitar may seem ludicrous, the market has shown that the demand is certainly there.

You also may notice that the SG prefix is very similar to a certain brand from one of the most popular U.S. builders today. When the SG Series from Yamaha became widespread in the early eighties, Gibson put a stop to it, and all Yamaha SG models were changed to SBG in the US. Carlos Santana hasn’t endorsed Yamaha for years; he was one of Paul Reed Smith’s first customers in the early eighties. Santana has several signature models with PRS and continues to play them exclusively today. I’m sure Santana along with you will continue to treasure this guitar for years to come!

Source: The History of Yamaha Guitars— Over 60 Years of Innovation by Mark Kasulen and Matt Blackett


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Post by corsair on Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:04 am

Each time a Vantage VA912 has showed itself, I've had other commitments, which pisses me off greatly..

I'd like a APII PE - DLX KV in Ivory, too but the only one I've ever seen went for many many more dollares than I've got spare....

I'd simply kill for a Rick 360/12, but don't have the kings' ransom lying about to buy one..

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Post by beavis on Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:28 am

A good substitute to the Yamaha SGs are the Yamaha SFs, I have one myself and it's a truly pro guitar. I heard that they share the same pickups. And they're cheap because Santana didn't snort coke on them.

My dream guitar would be an old Carvin DC400. Or just the 200 like Jason Becker. I nearly bought one with a scalloped neck for 550$ (!!) before shying out once I realized the hardtail bridge had been replaced by a kahler flyer. Seems like a risky operation to me and I didn't have the opportunity to try it out, so there goes.

Saw one of those Schon guitars in the hard rock café in Copenhagen just 2 days ago. Their headstocks are oversized, but that might have been those long-island ice-teas.

Always dreamt of having a old BC Rich Mockingbird and John (yes him) recently got me into VA900s.

Of course, I wouldn't mind an X390 or 350, but I'm rambling. (man is this smiley for me!!)

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Post by Iceman on Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:13 am

Electra x910

O'Hagen Shark

Gibson E2

Ibanez Destroyer

Getting the picture here?... Thinking Idea

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:51 am

Iceman wrote:Electra x910

O'Hagen Shark

Gibson E2

Ibanez Destroyer

Getting the picture here?...



My friend is selling an ibanez destroyer at this very moment : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ibanez-DT-155-Def-Leppard-Phil-Collen-Guitar-Local-Pickup-Only-/290726743423?pt=Guitar&hash=item43b0aa0d7f

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Post by Westbone on Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:27 am

none:lol:

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Post by Iceman on Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:08 pm

Westbone wrote:none:lol:

Sayeth the last of the big suspenders.... right? Roll on Floor Laff Dance 1

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Post by Iceman on Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:10 pm

Yo Sarc! He will not ship and he puts it on ebay? WTH!!??!! Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Warrn on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:04 am

Currently? Anything over $50. Neutral

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Post by beavis on Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:16 am

Warrn wrote:Currently? Anything over $50. Neutral

Those are the best!

Wouldn't mind a Sky guitar now that I think of it.

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Post by colt933 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:42 am

sarcaster wrote:This is one of mine - The Neal Schon guitar he produced for a short time - this is a poor example of one for sale right now and way over priced:

Ed Roman purchased the remaining inventory of parts for the Schon guitars and was building them a few years ago. But Ed died a while back but there seem to be some available still:

Schon guitars on Ed Roman

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:33 pm

colt933 wrote:
sarcaster wrote:This is one of mine - The Neal Schon guitar he produced for a short time - this is a poor example of one for sale right now and way over priced:

Ed Roman purchased the remaining inventory of parts for the Schon guitars and was building them a few years ago. But Ed died a while back but there seem to be some available still:

Schon guitars on Ed Roman



I've seen those - they have only gotten more $$$$ over the years. I had thought about getting the blank and finishing it from there, but still hoping to find one all in one piece. Ed died? hadn't heard that. He actually did work on one of my PRS's years ago.

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:36 pm

Iceman wrote:Yo Sarc! He will not ship and he puts it on ebay? WTH!!??!! Evil or Very Mad



If you want it I will ship it _ it think he likes dealing locally. I haven't played the destroyer, but I have played the Chafin he also has for sale - that one is awesome. If you want me to borrow the Ibanez, I can check it out, set it up and let you know how it plays/sounds

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Post by Iceman on Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:10 pm

That would be sweet if you have the time. He is going to have to come down in price somewhat however to make it into my neighborhood, budget-wise.

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Post by eyebulger on Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:09 am

Up till now it had always been a APII PE1000/1500


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Post by IanO on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:10 pm

This
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230754356799?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
Or this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160801092524?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
or even this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-PRS-Paul-Reed-Smith-SWAMPASH-USA-SEAFOAM-AAAAA-NECK-STUNNING-FAST-SHIP-/160823047397?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D160801092524%252B160801092524%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D117533095009054935

I've never played one so hope they would live up to my expectations.
This wouldn't be bad
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1241&bih=593&tbm=isch&tbnid=jBJ9XaTVaeE9eM:&imgrefurl=http://www.izideal.fr/p7851259/comparatif-guitares-electriques/achat-lag-roxanne-master-3000-spalt-maple/&docid=YrLp0jklKaua7M&imgurl=http://images.izideal.com/img/product/7851259/l/fr/lag-roxanne-master-3000-spalt-maple.jpeg&w=600&h=600&ei=R-rlT_3EJoqA8wOKkOHVCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=387&vpy=246&dur=5828&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=104&ty=148&sig=108909411592497996221&page=1&tbnh=129&tbnw=129&start=0&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:0,i:101
this i have played and it was luuurrrvvvllleeeeee!

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Post by westcoaster on Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:37 pm

That seafoam PRS looks stunning - until you see the amateur night at PRS design dept bolt on neck heel. Looks like easy access all the way up to the tenth fret.
For that amount of cash I want a helluv a lot more than the prs kudos (p250 anyone?)

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Post by G.A.S. man on Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:11 pm

Would have tobe Albert King's flying V ...
Though a Westone raider would be cool too So Happy

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Post by Barry on Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:50 pm

Don't know about "always wanted" but this is on my current want list: Axis Super Sport
In black cherry burst please. Ta ever so! Coffee Drinker

Oh what the heck, let's have a Brian Setzer Gretsch in candy apple red. Ta again. Dance 1

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:19 pm

I used to have an Axis copy, by a chinese brand named Mc2 ! green photo-flame finish, lovely maple neck and it was heavier than the mother-in-law.
currently negotiating re-owning it, wish I had never let it go No

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Post by Barry on Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:55 pm

Definitely not the same Axis! Click the link above to see it. This is from Music Man/Ernie Ball. All American.

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Post by Guest on Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:59 pm

One of mine is on ebay right now - but no one is looking at it and I can;t afford it right now - still saving mode. Not telling ya the brand, until I get one. Don;t need the competition Smile

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Post by Iceman on Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:04 pm

sarcaster wrote:One of mine is on ebay right now - but no one is looking at it and I can;t afford it right now - still saving mode. Not telling ya the brand, until I get one. Don;t need the competition Smile

Is it still going to be on ebay after you get hitched??

C'mon man, spill it... Thinking

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:13 am

Barry wrote:Definitely not the same Axis! Click the link above to see it. This is from Music Man/Ernie Ball. All American.

yeah I saw that, beautiful....very very beautiful

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