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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:35 am

As always, my projects are going to be slow, but I got the body and a neck to mess with. I have a mix of projects and they will all be




slow, but this will be the Rabin replica project thread. Good luck to me

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:44 am

I got the body, and the neck - let's see if I can make it work

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:51 am


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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:58 am

So I got the body and the neck for 60 USD

I don't think I can cut the headstock of the neck and make it work as my original idea. I do think that can work, but this neck is more thin at the zero line than my pantera.

So new neck will be built from scratch.

Input jack on the front will be be move to a more practical spot.

Trem cav will be filled

lots more I'm sure,but my goal is to make this like Rabin's 12



If I could only get a good look at the original

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by corsair on Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:48 am

Have you asked Arlene to intercede for you? I would... Like a shot!

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:56 am

corsair wrote:Have you asked Arlene to intercede for you? I would... Like a shot!
I asked - real humble like...can I borrow the guitar for a year or so? Smile

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:59 am

I do find it interesting that the someone on ebay had been seeling these bodies for like 70-90 bucks each for a year now, and I guess someone is buying them. he started with about 15 of them. I offerred a much lower amount and couldn't get one. then i find this one for 30 bucks (very cool ebay seller). Patience eh, i guess

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by corsair on Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:04 pm

That is, indeed, the key!

Back to the headstock, do you know anyone who's really good with imaging software? Given that you have a Spectrum and you have that picture of the neck and headstock, would it not be possible to extrapolate the information and make a very close blueprint?

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:34 am

no one that I am aware of - but sounds like a good idea

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Post by Barry on Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:16 am

corsair wrote:...do you know anyone who's really good with imaging software? Given that you have a Spectrum and you have that picture of the neck and headstock, would it not be possible to extrapolate the information and make a very close blueprint?
That speaks to the cosmetics but I would think the primary concern is gonna be withstanding the string tension of 12 strings on such a slender design.
Here's an example from D'Addario as to what yer up against. Something like 252 pounds of tension (probably an acoustic so more extreme. Still...)



The truss design's 'nuther thing. Would a 6 string design handle the extra pull?

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Westbone on Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:37 am

The idea is to get the neck angle to body/bridge right or somewhere thereabouts. Hence kicking a load of force into the neck pocket.

Even so there's plenty of strain on the neck itself.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by colt933 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:20 pm

Warmoth makes 12 string necks. You might ask them if their trussrod design or neck profile are different from a standard 6 string neck.

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Post by Westbone on Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:29 pm

12 string necks are a little beefier than normal for obvious reasons.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:51 pm

So far the original 6 string neck on the Pantera has held up fine, but for the spectrum I think I'm going to make a neck so that it is wider at the nut to make it a little easier to play. I have seend dual truss rod necks before, so that may be something to look into

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Post by Westbone on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:23 pm

It is a laminate on the Pantera, good news.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Barry on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:49 pm

Not sure if there's a market for maple toothpicks Sarc!

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by corsair on Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:19 pm

This is getting interesting, folks; like it! The neck on the electric 12 I've played that is Matt built has been thin, very like the 6 string version. Eyebulger owns these Vantages; perhaps we could ask him to measure nut width and headstock angle, and to compare VA912 to VA900??

Don......???

Hey, is TRs Spectrum a h/s/h guitar? If so, how cool is that?!

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by midhilis on Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:25 pm

sarcaster wrote:So far the original 6 string neck on the Pantera has held up fine, but for the spectrum I think I'm going to make a neck so that it is wider at the nut to make it a little easier to play. I have seend dual truss rod necks before, so that may be something to look into

Depending on what style of music you play, it might pay to make the string spacing at the nut wider - on my Burns Double Six the string pairs are spaced wider so it's easy to play individual strings, normal or octave. If you want a look closer to the Rabin one I have a spare neck off a Clipper Six, same shape as the Thunders.

can't say I've noticed beefier necks on twelve strings, the neck on my Vintage Synergy 12 string and Vintage Giltrap signature model 12 string are what I'd expect for a 6 string, the Burns is no different to a six string model - but the 70s Hokada 12 string acoustic is like a tree trunk.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Barry on Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:43 pm

corsair wrote:This is getting interesting, folks; like it! The neck on the electric 12 I've played that is Matt built has been thin, very like the 6 string version. Eyebulger owns these Vantages...
Yup, interesting 4 sure. But ain't the Vantge necks 3 piece laminates? T'would make a big difference.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by corsair on Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:32 am

Yeah, 5 piece actually if you count the stringers between the actual lumps of wood. But the point being that if you're going to make a neck from scratch, then that's what I'd do!!

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Sanding it down

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

Done with most of the sanding. Left the inner horns for last as they are the big pain.

Next will be moving the jack to the bottom of the guitar and routing the lip around the trem cavity so I can fill it.

Anyone have any scrap maple pieces laying around?

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:36 pm

Seek and yee shall find - if anyone needs small maple pieces for odd jobs like I'm doing - it's free - just shipping.



http://www.barclaywoods.com/Wood_Blocks_Free_Scrap.htm

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:39 pm

Ok so it turmed out to be 26 bucks USD for 20lbs. I don;t need that much - but who knows what I may get myself into eh

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by corsair on Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:00 pm

sarcaster wrote:Ok so it turmed out to be 26 bucks USD for 20lbs. I don;t need that much - but who knows what I may get myself into eh

Ahahahaha... funny!! Maybe the other lads might need some later on, eh?!

So... what're you gonna do about the neck?! Have you got onto TR or Arlene?? Keep harping at them, man!!

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