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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:30 am



So only about an hour and I have the rough shape of the neck. lots of fine tuning around the heel and headstock to do.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:12 pm

awesome!
are you copying a particular neck profile or shaping it to your needs?

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:24 pm

Sgt. Vimes wrote:awesome!
are you copying a particular neck profile or shaping it to your needs?

I'm just going by feel, but making sure it is thicker than the previous neck - kinda like the "baseball bat" strat necks of old. I don't want to make it too thin because of the extra tension. I think I will go a bit thinner than it sits currently, we'll see.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:01 pm



Neck is carved, and no I did not use the sander - all hand carved, feels good, neck is straight.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:02 pm



I did however use the spindle sander to do the little Westone curves at the top of the headstock - I think its close to the Westone look.
Gotta order up some tuners so I can drill the tuner holes.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by corsair on Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:36 pm


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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Barry on Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:01 pm

Very tricky stuff Pat! I'm amazed you're doing it by feel alone.
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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:12 pm

Barry wrote:Very tricky stuff Pat! I'm amazed you're doing it by feel alone.
"We don need no steenkin' CNC routers!"

CNC??? is that short for Candian National Copyaguitarmachine? Very Happy

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Barry on Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:43 am


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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by The Chad on Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:11 pm

We stand impressed yet again Sarc!

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by gittarasaurus on Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:19 pm

how did you shape and smooth the back of the neck.
i saw 2 large rasp files...
did you use anything else for fine tuning the shape? scrapers or something?
then just sandpaper for finish

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:22 pm

gittarasaurus wrote:how did you shape and smooth the back of the neck.
i saw 2 large rasp files...
did you use anything else for fine tuning the shape? scrapers or something?
then just sandpaper for finish

I started with a coarse rasp and fine tuned with the fine rasp. Then for the detail areas around the headstock I used sandpaper from a spindle sander that I glue over a wood dowel so that I can do it by hand and still have control. I did also use a scraper after most of it was done which has a straight edge, a semi circle edge and concave edge which was helpful in finding some small high spots. I ended up using the scraper on another project for removing the finish off of the guitar - a lot faster than sanding and suprisingly controlable - no scarping the wood - just the paint.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by grogg on Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:17 pm

That looks fantastic, good stuff sarc

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Getting close

Post by Guest on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:37 am

Ok so I got my tuners finally and did my preinstall to see how it would look. One issue when using a drill press on a neck with an angle is I could not do the lower (closer to the nut) tuners with the guitar flat without a block underneath. So it slipped a bit on the second to last tuner on the treble side (the first high E) and that is just a bit out of line with the rest. Nothing that will affect it's purpose, but is noticable at a close look - maybe 2-3 mm off from the rest. I'll have to find a better solution than what I did so in the future it is perfect, but once this neck is painted, it will be barely noticeably if at all unless you already knew it happened. Also cool to see the original Westone/Electra neck that I used to make a template for this neck - didn't notice when I took the pic that it was there - but what a difference eh? You can also see on that neck, that I pulled some frets for practice prior to doing my first refret. If anyone wants that Westone/Electra neck - it goes for shipping cost only - it has served me well.





And in the background ya can see my strat build body which is going very nicely from some great alder I got. A shame it isn;t going to be mine, but instead my son has plans for that one. I really wanted a classic sunburst, but he wants to paint it - either way, theat is going to be a great strat.




Next up - fret markers, and the frets, truss rod cover, and then back to the wonderful world of sanding, painting, sanding, logo, clear, sanding, electronics and hopefully this bird flys.
Still haven't decided on PUPS for this. TP says the PUPS were custome for Rabin so I gotta go with what I want as I will never match the original.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:23 am

Another thing - There is not much room for the logo - I think I may just go with the bird logo. But I'll print both the bird and the bird with Westone underneath and see what it looks like

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by corsair on Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:44 am

Exciting, eh!!

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by grogg on Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:06 pm

Why not do your own logo with a bit of a Westone edge? Looking great by the way.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:48 am

grogg wrote:Why not do your own logo with a bit of a Westone edge? Looking great by the way.

Thanks! I'm going to try to get it to look as original as possible - a lot of it is still going to be guesswork since I can't get trever to let me borrow his to compare Smile

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Westbone on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:38 pm

Coming along very nice sarc

What do you reckon it says on the truss cover, 'Trevor Rabin'
twelve

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:09 pm

Westbone wrote:Coming along very nice sarc

What do you reckon it says on the truss cover, 'Trevor Rabin'
twelve

I do believe it says Trevor Rabin, but not sure what I want it to say on mine. Maybe my name, maybe sarcaster (although that really is meant for my strat), maybe Poser Rabin? Maybe nothing? Actually hadn't thought of what to put there yet.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Westbone on Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:52 am

No, no. What do you think it says on the original...twelve or custom ???

We know it says TR but the smaller writing on the cover.

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:02 am

It's hard to tell. I have a copy of the magazine with it on the cover, I'll see if I can tell

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:09 am

Installed the Abolone inlays. I used a small forstner bit which made the cirlces perfect and left them protrude just a bit above the fretboard rather than take the chance of drilling too deep. A filed off the bit extra with a nut file.









StewMac makes this cool fret bending tool. I can't imagine doing this by hand with any consistency











I cut the ends of the fret that go into the slot so when they are installed, the fret will not be seen on the side of the fretboard. Later I will fill the empty slots on the side of the fretboard with ebony dust and glue and it should match up pretty well.







Clipping the ends off:







And there ya go. It really looks like a neck now. I still need to level them off and then do all the little detail work.





Looks like it it almost done, but still lots of work to do. Side dots, slotting the nut, drill the set screws for the back of the headstock, fill the side of the fret slots, make a truss rod coverfinal sand, paint, make logo, clear coat and then off to sanding and painting the body, install hardware (find the right PUPS) and anything else I've forgotten - yikes, still a lot to go

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:23 am

Excellent work!
did you go with stainless steel wire in the end?

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:42 am

Sgt. Vimes wrote:Excellent work!
did you go with stainless steel wire in the end?

thanks !

I wanted to, but did not. All I read is that it tears up the tools and at this point I think its ok to go with the standard stuff. Maybe I'll try it on one of my builds that I'm working on

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Re: Rabin Spectrum 12 string replica

Post by Guest on Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:42 am

This is the neck after using a sanding block to take the outside edges off, and then beveled a bit. Used a sharpie to mark the top of the frets before I level them so I can see if anything is too low. It was all pretty close, but did need more work then the strat I just refretted.


Then after leveling the frets, I speant a lot of time crowning and shaping the ends. Sanding with a few grits then polished up. Looking nice and shiny. This came out much better than my strat - which was ok, but I'm getting a new bridge for the strat at which point I'll put more time into the sanding/polishing part. Gotta say the fretwork takes a lot of patience, but the more you put into it, the better the results. I'm pretty happy with it.

Hopefully tomorrow I can drill the holes for the tuner set screws, then finish sand the neck and get ready for paint!

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