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Post by bobroberts on Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:10 am

Hi,
Seen this on the bay of evil. Guy says Matsumoku, but does anyone know whether it is or not? I'm waiting for a reply regarding branding, and evidence of it being one of uncle Mat's. Can't see any brand name on the pics he's posted.. Looks a nice thing - whatever it is.. Any ideas?

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Post by bobroberts on Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:13 am

He sure likes his keyword spam..!

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Post by gittarasaurus on Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:14 am

i have an idea.....
provide a link to what you are talking about...
Laughing

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Post by bobroberts on Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:17 am

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190699542557

Doh!

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Post by bobroberts on Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:18 am

I keep doing that.. Embarassed

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Post by Barry on Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:30 am

Looks nicely made, likely MIJ at least...but why is there no shot of the headstock? scratch

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Post by bobroberts on Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:35 am

My cynical nature says he's hinting at Mats to push the price up a bit - note his use of keyword spam - headstock might help dis-prove his Mats claims, maybe...?

As you say - looks nicely made, anyway!

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Post by G.A.S. man on Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:47 am

Seen it on Evilbay too an thought a bout it myself..
looks good but hondo ,satalite ,aria,Ibanez an teisco all did strat copies..
Think Ibanez used a strat headstock without truss rod cover..
The others had a stratish style headstock with a trussrod cover..
If its cheapish go for it as it will be well built...

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Post by peterscott on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:34 am

Yep, I suspect using Mat name to bump up price.

Also suspicious cos no shot of headstock!!!

Caveat Emptor

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Post by bobroberts on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:44 am

Indeed! I wouldn't pay the Mat premium unless I knew 100% it was a Mat. It's a nice looking thing, and that's what I'm going on, unless it can be proven that it is what he says..

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:49 am

the 2 piece headstock screams Hondo to me same as all the hondo's ive had, looks a beauty though

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Post by G.A.S. man on Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:20 pm

Think it's a Aria by the look of it...
Wouldn't swear on it but it might be bitsa Aria... Well the neck at least..
The body could be anything...

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Post by bobroberts on Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:57 pm

Well, he's cleared up any slight doubts I might have had with this message - just received:

Hi, The principal evidence that it's a matsumoku are, of course, the matsu electrics - same as these.. 140549534952 the bevel for your right arm has a more noticeable "edge" than on other guitars, the neckplate is narrower than you'd expect, the head has a fillet of wood to make the "flag", the truss rod has a capstan-type adjuster at the heel end with a cut in the scratchplate to allow access, and the trem-block is marked S.T.C Made In Japan.
It's identical to Kimbaras, a CMI I sold a few weeks ago, and a bunch of other much-prized matsumoku's I've owned and played over the years,
Hope that helps,
All best to you,
Paul

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:50 pm

Are Mats guitars known for their narrow neck plates? I know Hondo are.

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Post by hoax on Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:44 pm

A Matsumoku "Kimbara" Strat I sold about a year ago



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Post by Iceman on Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:00 pm

No headstock picture either, mmmhmm.

I hear those neckplates can be removed and swapped around fairly easily... Suspect

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:13 pm

a non Matsumoku Hondo I bought this year Smile

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Post by chaypup on Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:37 am

ncluding something I never saw before - the original truss rod adjuster (see pics)

I saw the pic - it's an allen key! Is it marked "Made by Uncle Mat"????

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Post by bobroberts on Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:04 am

82, with 4 days to go..

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Post by Westbone on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:53 am

That's not necessary a Mats. Just because it has a MIJ bridge.

There where 10's of makers doing the same thing back in the day.
Have a look around this site.

http://www.music-trade.co.jp/JVGuitarHome.html

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Post by bobroberts on Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:32 pm

Well - that seems to be the consensus.. I asked him how he knew it was a Mats, and for some evidence, and he just spouted a load of gobbledigook, which proved nowt (to me, at least). I just added the update of the current bids, to show how suggesting a guitar is made by X, and throwing a bit of keyword spam in for good measure, can really bump the price up..!

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Post by hoax on Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:28 pm

My Kimbara had the typical triple laminate neck. this one doesn't. I doubt if it is Matsumoku.

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Post by bobroberts on Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:40 pm

Me too, Hoax..

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Post by Westbone on Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:29 am

Does this look familiar

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/1970s-Japanese-Stratocaster-Electric-Guitar-Maple-NECK-/280917455589?pt=UK_Photography_VintageCameras_SM&hash=item4167fc32e5

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Post by bobroberts on Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:30 am

sure does!

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