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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by gittarasaurus on Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:47 pm

how about some vinyl....
this is a promo album

these are picture discs

"Baby Snakes - A Movie About People Who Do Stuff That Is Not Normal"

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by gittarasaurus on Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:32 pm

how about more vinyl?
here's a few of my bootleg albums....
Guitar Hernia, a collection of recordings from various places, live and studio.
seems like this material was official recordings and notes. probably the beginnings of what became YCDTOSA because each recording is annotated with comments by FZ. excellent quality recordings

Fred Zeppelin, 2 record set, a collection of recordings from the 1980 tour

No Commercial Potential, 2 record set, mostly live recordings with Flo and Eddie, a few tasty studio ditties too.

Zappa & Beefheart - Metal Man Has Hornet's Wings, mostly live recordings from the sixties and a few obscure studio outtake tracks from Trout Mask Replica

Rubber Slices, 2 record set recorded at Knebworth Hall, England on 9 September 1978

and the big one... The History and Collected Improvisations of The Mothers Of Invention
a 10 record set with booklet. the booklet cover says "10 years on the road with Frank Zappa and The Mothers Of Invention

i'll dig up a few more later....

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by gittarasaurus on Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:15 pm

would y'all like some more-uh
right here on the floor-uh
and how about you fauna, do ya wanna?
Idea
this is a 4 record set bootleg version of Lather. after Warner Bros. refused to release the album material that FZ delivered to them, Frank charged them with breach of contract and took his recordings to a local radio station and told everybody listening to whip out their little tape recorders and tape the whole album. he was giving it away for free. in fact, the radio station re-broadcasted the material again many times. even doing one side per night so that nobody would run out of tape while recording. i imagine that is the origin of the recordings on these discs

The Godfather in Full Metal Jacket, live recordings of the 1988 tour, 2 record set

Project-Object, live in new york, 1978. this is an old-school bootleg lp, blank white slipcover with xerox copy page stuck on it, fake label on the disc

and another like it, Conceptual Continuity, live in detroit november 19, 1976. lineup includes: FZ, Ray White, Eddie Jobson, Patrick O'Hearn, Terry Bozzio

Pygmy Pony, live 1974. one of the worst sounding bootlegs ever made, amazing performance, sucky recording. looks like it was done by ToiletBowlRecordingsInc, check out the little logo thingy...

Could This Be Joe's Garage Acts IV and V Live?, Fox Theater Atlanta, GA, April 20, 1980

this is one of the boots that inspired the series of Zappa releases entitled Beat the Boots. historically significant performances in the Zappa story, but usually inferior quality recordings. this one has a pretty well made package compared to most. it seems to be trying to pass for an official release, which is why Zappa did his own releases, to cut the leeches out of the distribution loop.

Tiny Nightmares, recorded at the Felt Forum NYC, October 31, 1977

A Token Of His Extreme Live From KCET-TV in LA 1974, pressed on green vinyl

bootleg release picture disc with interview material only

Chronicle, includes studio material 1964 - 77, live performances from 11/71 and 1975

.... yeah i still have more, if i can find them.... That\'s nuts!

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by corsair on Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:44 pm

So..... you're just a little keen, then?! :flower: That's a cracking collection of sounds, buddy!

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by gittarasaurus on Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:28 pm

yeah i suppose you could say that. i was/am a hard-core vinyl junkie, still have a collection of about 2000 lp's
Hairy & Wooly
i have been a committed Zappa fan since about 1970 (and when i say committed, i mean like, to-a-looney-bin type committed of course)
i love all the different styles of music FZ has produced over the years. from do-wop to classical, from low-down blues to synclavier computer music, there is a conceptual continuity in his approach to musical composition. it all sounds like Zappa and nobody else. it's amazing.

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by corsair on Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:50 am

I like the vinyl, too; you cannot beat the full size sleeve as well!!

Not as heavily into FZ as you are; in fact not really into any artist to quite that extent, though Rush used to come close!

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by hobster on Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:42 am

gittarasaurus wrote: it all sounds like Zappa and nobody else. it's amazing.

Yes! Franks music was so versitile and always sounded like him. He even wrote a sorta rap song - "dumb all over" - one of my favs, amazing lyrics and a killer guitar riff. He did write some amazing riffs, but compositionally i've always felt he is a great as Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, or any other human who has walked this earth. Some may think thats blasphomy but not to me. He is by far the greatest composer rock has ever known. Frank was into classically composed music as a kid and then got into rock - the opposite road most people take. He loved Spike Jones, and i hear the "cartoony" type influence in his music. All he did was work and sleep. What he accomplished as a writer is staggering, i mean, try to learn one of his compositional tunes and i'll bet it will take you weeks. His likes will never be seen again.

I studied classical guitar at VCU and i remember a world famous composer (damn i'm getting old, can't remember his name right now) doing a master class and he was asked about rock and the only comment he made was about Frank. That will always stick with me. Happy Zappadan!

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by hobster on Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:49 am

corsair wrote:So..... you're just a little keen, then?! :flower: That's a cracking collection of sounds, buddy!

I don't think there are alot of casual Zappa fans out there. Most that are into his music are REALLY into his music. And that is an amazing collection of Zappa vinyl !!Very Happy Very impressive, i've never seen the original Lather album either (have the 3 cd set of course) thanks for the shots! I wish i had more to contribute but all i have that is rare is a very cool poster i got from a buddy who's dad was a poster collector. I'm pretty sure Guitarsauraus has cover alot of ground though. Very Happy

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by gittarasaurus on Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:10 pm

collecting Zappa stuff has always been an interesting and challenging hobby. in the early days, Frank got screwed around, ripped off and ferked-over repeatedly, so things were very hard to come by, even just the regular albums (not to mention bootlegs etc). especially for some kid living in the plain vanilla suburbs of washington dc. us Zappa freaks were the mutant unwanteds and misfits, and we were proud of it.

in a local radio interview, i once heard Frank describe a performance he did in DC in the mid-60's at a TV station. they wanted a "California Band" to play live on TV and do a Freak-Out live performance. so the audience was instructed to come in the wildest clothing they could find. According to Frank, the most outrageous thing some of them could muster up, was to wear different color sox! (yeah, that much plain vanilla). of course you can imagine the reaction when The Mothers got onstage. (think: cover of We're Only In It For The Money) Freak out indeed!

it wasn't until after many years of legal battles that Frank regained control of his music from "all those record company pricks..." that he was able to break thru the mainstream blockade of his music, and reach a larger audience with his releases and his live performances. Which also led to better official merchandising of collectable stuff, because Frank knew his audience better than any outside company he had to contract with to release his material. he knew what he wanted to produce and he knew there was an audience for it. once the dirtbags were out of the way, Frank became a very successful businessman.

even though i may not like all the things that the Zappa Family Trust has done, for all the hell Frank had to go through in his career and his too-short life, i don't begrudge them anything. i'm very happy that they have made great efforts to show the unique contribution Frank has made to 20th century music, and to ensure his legacy is well preserved.

and after so many years, i hope it still haunts whatever dim wit uttered the now famous words describing FZ's music way back in the beginning,

No Commercial Potential

nobody could have been more wrong!

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:03 pm

Wow! Stunning collection there, very nice indeedy.
I have to admit to being a rare "casual zappa fan" 3 or 4 albums is the extent of my zappa knowledge, I did once download his (almost) entire discography once, but got lost a few times trying to hear it all.

Love the "fauna" quote, that song will be stuck in my head for days now, thanks Smile

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by hobster on Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:48 pm

Yeah, Frank was the only musician i know of who won the rights to his own music in court. Its extremely rare for any musician to have the rights to their own music, the record companies rob you of that when you sign a contract. Lets not forgot Frank, John Denver, and good ol Dee Snider fighting censorship and the PMRC. He was probably the most intelligent guy in that entire room. I still remember Tipper Gore holding Def Leppards Pyromania album and saying "burn, burn burn". Its laughable to think that was so offensive when you listen to todays music (especially rap). I remembered that when Al Gore ran for pres - didn't vot that year.

I grew up in the DC burbs as well, Mt. Vernon NVA. Where were you?

another great Frank lyric-

Republicans is fair if you're a multimillionare, Democrats is fair if what you own is what you wear, Neither of thems really right cause neither of them care ..........

What they do in Washington, they look out for number one. Number one ain't you, you're not even number 2!

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by gittarasaurus on Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:13 am

i lived in Rockville Maryland. i went to Robert E Peary high school. Peary was an Arctic explorer and so naturally our school mascot was the Husky!

i was in high school when the Apostrophe album was released, so our not-so-official school motto immediately became; Watch out where the Huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow!

Frank was a gifted poet. he was a keen observer and an unashamed commentator. his lyrics are as finely crafted as his intricate musical arrangements.

a song that is still one of my favorites is Trouble Comin' Every Day. there's incredible lyrics throughout the Freak Out album. i love his lyrical songs like; Dumb All Over, Tinsletown Rebellion, Drowning Witch, Be In My Video, Planet Of The Baritone Women ... and on and on...

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by hobster on Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:16 am

Happy birthday Frank!!

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by gittarasaurus on Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:47 am

Happy Birthday Frank Happy Birthday

Broadway The Hard Way

this show was the last time i saw Zappa perform in concert. it was a freeking awesome concert.
and from youutoob, here is an audio recording from that night (not mine)...
Stairway To Heaven

i saw him do 3 nights at the Warner Theater in DC at the beginning of the tour in February, then this one at the end of the north american tour. it think this was the last show or the next to last show on the tour. which also turned out to be the last concerts he ever played in the USA.
the band did a European tour next, but due to conflicts within the band, another tour of the USA after the European tour, got cancelled.


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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by jim on Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:45 am

gittarasaurus wrote:collecting Zappa stuff has always been an interesting and challenging hobby. in the early days, Frank got screwed around, ripped off and ferked-over repeatedly, so things were very hard to come by, even just the regular albums (not to mention bootlegs etc). especially for some kid living in the plain vanilla suburbs of washington dc. us Zappa freaks were the mutant unwanteds and misfits, and we were proud of it.

in a local radio interview, i once heard Frank describe a performance he did in DC in the mid-60's at a TV station. they wanted a "California Band" to play live on TV and do a Freak-Out live performance. so the audience was instructed to come in the wildest clothing they could find. According to Frank, the most outrageous thing some of them could muster up, was to wear different color sox! (yeah, that much plain vanilla). of course you can imagine the reaction when The Mothers got onstage. (think: cover of We're Only In It For The Money) Freak out indeed!

it wasn't until after many years of legal battles that Frank regained control of his music from "all those record company pricks..." that he was able to break thru the mainstream blockade of his music, and reach a larger audience with his releases and his live performances. Which also led to better official merchandising of collectable stuff, because Frank knew his audience better than any outside company he had to contract with to release his material. he knew what he wanted to produce and he knew there was an audience for it. once the dirtbags were out of the way, Frank became a very successful businessman.

even though i may not like all the things that the Zappa Family Trust has done, for all the hell Frank had to go through in his career and his too-short life, i don't begrudge them anything. i'm very happy that they have made great efforts to show the unique contribution Frank has made to 20th century music, and to ensure his legacy is well preserved.

and after so many years, i hope it still haunts whatever dim wit uttered the now famous words describing FZ's music way back in the beginning,

No Commercial Potential

nobody could have been more wrong!

How well spoken! Can't help thinking youth in the world back in the day seemed to have a tiny bit more critical ability's but only few were aware of a corporate fascism scheme as seems more overwhelmingly evident now. Less revolt, a terrorist before you know it. Here comes dystopia. What a fan-tastic read, fun items and pics in this topic you started to honour a friend. RIP Frank Zappa. Thanks!

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Re: Happy Zappadan 2012

Post by jim on Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:49 am

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry - Frank Zappa

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