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Post by westcoaster on Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:24 pm

Jeez, I hope David Cameron doesn't subscribe to The westone forum, he'd probably adopt that idea as policy for the unemployed.

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by corsair on Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:55 pm

This just HAS to be the biggest hijack, and most off topic thread EVER?

Well done, everybody! Idea

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by hoax on Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:58 am

OK

Back on topic

If a humbucker is two single coils in series, then a Strat in positions 2 and 4 cannot be like a humbucker as the pickups are wired in parallel.

Am I missing something?

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Post by Westbone on Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:28 am

Of course you can have a humbucker in parallel.

Can use a mini switch or pull/push.

I've a few like that, some I did myself and others that came like that.

Westones do it on Thunder's, Rainbows and all their guitars with phase switching.

What do your Rainbows do with the PEQ, series to parallel, in phase .

But they'll never sound like a Strat as the coils of a h/bucker are close together, whereas the Strat's pups are about 21/2" apart picking up different string frequencies

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by hoax on Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:44 am

I know that Damian, but that is not a standard humbucker, it is a humbucker with switched phasing.

My point is that a Strat in positions 2 and 4 is really not like a humbucker as the pickups are wired in parallel as opposed to series, therefore it is not a surprise that they don't sound like a humbucker, regardless of distance between coils.

Have to admit that I still don't know why a Concord doesn't sound like a Strat ( even though I think it does!)

I am going back to baby pigeons soon

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by gittarasaurus on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:45 am

hoax wrote:
Have to admit that I still don't know why a Concord doesn't sound like a Strat ( even though I think it does!)

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this is what i have found is the difference;

concord position #2 & 4 = bzzzzzzzzzzz
strat position #2 & 4 = shhhhhhhhhhhhh

in position #2 & 4, they are not supposed to sound like a humbucker, they are just using the same technique to reduce the noise.

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Post by hoax on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:10 am

Thanks for that

I prefer the bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz one. Kinda reminds me of a little baby pigeon.

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by gittarasaurus on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:12 am

i like a good bzzzzzz too

that's why i'm a Westoner

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by Westbone on Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:59 am

Geez, it's the 'king blind leading the blind here.

Do you think all Strats had a reverse middle pup!.

What is a 'standard' humbucker. A Gibson PAF 2 wires?

Times have moved on a bit.

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by hoax on Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:20 am

Westbone wrote:Geez, it's the 'king blind leading the blind here.

Do you think all Strats had a reverse middle pup!.

What is a 'standard' humbucker. A Gibson PAF 2 wires?

Times have moved on a bit.

Question 1 - No
Question 2 - No not specifically 2 wire, not specifically Gibson nor PAF, but if it is switched using either coil tap or phase reversal on one coil then it aint operating as a true humbucker.

I am sorry to hear about your sight impairment, if I had known about I would not have allowed myself be led by you. It must get a bit fiddly when you are trying to wire a guitar using Braille.

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by gittarasaurus on Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:42 am

wowie zowie baby!

this is only just, gee whiz you know what i noticed about my Westone?

Drink Beer

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:43 pm

the reason you dont see baby pidgeons is: they are out of phase till they reach adulthood

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by Westbone on Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:00 pm

hoax wrote:I know that Damian, but that is not a standard humbucker, it is a humbucker with switched phasing.

My point is that a Strat in positions 2 and 4 is really not like a humbucker as the pickups are wired in parallel as opposed to series, therefore it is not a surprise that they don't sound like a humbucker, regardless of distance between coils.

Have to admit that I still don't know why a Concord doesn't sound like a Strat ( even though I think it does!)

I am going back to baby pigeons soon

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series in phase, series out of phase, parallel in phase, parallel out of phase

All working as a true h/bucker.

Must be hard to read anything with your head stuck up where the sun don't shine.

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by hoax on Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:11 pm

Sorry to hear that you got your head stuck Damian.

A good course of laxatives should do the job. That big ol' bloated head will come out with fair pop and you'll be back to your old cheery self in no time!

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by Iceman on Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:19 pm

Along that same line of thinking Mike have you ever noticed how, no matter how much you try to, a Husqvarna can never be tuned to sound like a proper chainsaw such as this one?...



I mean, come on... what is the deal with that?!? Chores 2

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by Westbone on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:16 pm

hoax wrote:Sorry to hear that you got your head stuck Damian.

A good course of laxatives should do the job. That big ol' bloated head will come out with fair pop and you'll be back to your old cheery self in no time!

Hoax

Very child like and petty.

Did notice that there was no comment on p/up configurations.

Still fighting the world, lol

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by hoax on Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:21 am

Sleep Sleep Sleep

PM sent

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by corsair on Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:04 am

OK.... let's all just take a deep breath and let this go....

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by Barry on Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:17 am

Jeez, and I get locked out and spat upon for correcting factual errors? No

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by Westbone on Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:46 pm

Cheers for the pm.

No point taken.

You need to swot up on your humbuckers.

Forget your coil tap.

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Re: Concord vs strat - POP Quiz!

Post by grogg on Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:50 pm

Very Happy Thanks for the laff fellas, will be letting the baby pigeons out of the Faradays as soon as it warms up a little. Shooting allowed, chainsaws no.

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