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Post by Westbone on Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:45 am

hoax wrote:Oh Sheet!!

That's a real shame! You have the technology to repair.

Hoax

But not the time, as we're 'tarting' up the house and moving on.

Can't live in this shiite area called London any more, turning into a slum around here.
Let the fookers have it. What a fook up! Thanks Gov.co.uk

That's my little moan... Smile

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Post by Iceman on Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:05 am

Abit of a travlin' tune for you then Damian...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDPSox7whqI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Post by hoax on Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:47 pm

Damian

If you are not happy then you are doing the best thing. Life is too short to compromise when it comes to your daily living space.

The good thing is that you will reap the benefits of London selling prices and hopefully get yourself a pile of bricks in an old established community where its values are more akin to your own.

Good luck to you. It will probably be the best decision you make in your life.

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Post by Westbone on Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:40 am

A few shots of what's going on around here.
What a change in the last 7/8 years. Open the flood gates, this is what you get. Makes 'em feel at home.



Soon be like what they left at home.


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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:42 am

Damian you want to get your arse up north mate, where the real people live Smile

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Post by Westbone on Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:50 am

Was born up north Pete. I wouldn't go back to Rochdale, no way.

Nope going west, Bath area. Very Happy

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:57 am

Rochdale! don't blame you to be fair.
Although you'll be replacing beds and rubbish strewn streets for ageing hippies and tie dyed shirts strewn streets! good luck mate Smile

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Post by Westbone on Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:27 am

lol! Just might be one...minus the tie dye

Be a year before it happens anyway.. Sad

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Post by Barry on Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:09 am

Good Lord Damian!!
In the immortal words of Dr. Who, "RUN!" Surprised!

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Post by Westbone on Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:54 pm

Yep............ :speedy:

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Post by Society on Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:13 pm

Westbone:
What?! Is that how it looks where you live?! Like living in a garbage dump?! Shocked

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Post by hoax on Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:17 pm

At first I thought that the 3rd photo was also Damian's neighbourhood, but I now suspect that it's use was just to demonstrate his fears for the future.

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Post by Westbone on Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:24 pm

Society wrote:Westbone:
What?! Is that how it looks where you live?! Like living in a garbage dump?! Shocked
lol!

Give it 10 years it WILL look like that.

The first 2 pictures are of my area, 3rd is a Roma block of flats in Romania. The doors open very shortly and they all want to head for the UK and we let 'em.

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Post by Society on Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:49 pm

Well, I see! That is crazy! How is it possible?! What kind of people throw out their garbage and furniture on the streets?! I am in a schock! Have never seen anything like that here in Sweden and when I grew up I lived in one of the areas where people did not want to stay, one of the ghettos. But it never looked like that! Mad

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Post by Westbone on Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:55 pm

Immigrants/asylum seekers from so called 3rd world countries.
London's full of them.
Come from a s**t hole and treat this place the same, they know no better, it's the norm. and this toothless council don't fine them! They give them bins.
We have to buy our own! Man, England's fooked!!

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Post by Society on Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:05 pm

I see, in my ears that sounds just crazy! How can this go on? Don´t you have any rules that aplies to these people as well? Or are they exceptions? I am glad not living in England then. We have our problems as well but this is still something I have never ever seen here in Sweden. There are places where people are afraid of going out after six a clock in the evening. This because that all trash (criminals and drug addicts that do not care about other people or other peoples property) ends up here (or (unfortunately) the ones that can´t afford to live any other place. This is also the places where you have the (only (if not lucky)) chance to get your first (rental) apartment when you have not been in any cue for several years?

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Post by Iceman on Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:35 pm

It's the way of globalisation I suppose... Don\'t Know

Open border policies to entice needed workers for the less than attractive employment opportunities that the indigenous population has deemed beneath them, the transplants refuse to integrate themselves into their adoptive society, they breed out the very citizens who brought them in (or allowed them easy access in) and soon more money is spent in the public education system on classes/studies in tolerance and ESL than properly preparing the next generation for productive citizenship.

How's that for the low, low rate of only 2¢??

And we have far too many neighborhoods in the urban areas... large and small, of my country as well to be pointing out specks in the eyes of other countries. And this is coming to you live from what was at one time thought of as the world's melting pot.

Not so much anymore... No no no

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Post by Westbone on Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:44 pm

Yep, a mess.
Over and out.

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Post by hoax on Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:50 pm

Many of the Eastern Europeans coming to this country seem to have no problems at all finding jobs. I have personal experience of them, particularly Polish people, and I find them to be earnest, honest, hard working and respectful.

At the same time, we have a small hard core of feckless native Britons, who won't work and expect the tax payer to provide all for them and their uncontrolled reproductive habits.

Because of the nature of the European Community agreements, we not only invite those decent people who want to work and who want to live in decent surroundings, but we also permit access to other nations underclasses who see our benefits system as a soft touch.

Personally, although I have a lot of respect for many of our recent migrants, I feel that we should first deal with our own work shy and thereafter, permit access to other citizens only if we have a job here that we require them to do.

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Post by Iceman on Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:57 pm

Ever the voice of reason, Graham.

A shame that this thread has gotten where it did given the beauty of it's origins. Nothing but rainbows and baby ducks from me going forward in this one.

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Post by Barry on Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:57 pm

Canada, while not quite at the stage the UK is currently in, is sliding down that proverbial slippery slope. We tend to eventually follow Britain's lead.

Agreed there are some lovely folks arriving and contributing to the common good, but Political Correctness is slowly crippling the Western world and shows no signs of letting up. And, as I write this, Justin Trudeau, Pierre's number one son, has just been elected the Liberal Party leader. Lord help us all if he ever becomes PM.

Where's an Iron Lady when you need one eh?


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Post by Westbone on Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:10 pm

Have a gander at this.
http://www2.redbridge.gov.uk/cms/the_council/about_the_council/about_redbridge/2011_census/diversity.aspx

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Post by Westbone on Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:20 am

hoax wrote:Many of the Eastern Europeans coming to this country seem to have no problems at all finding jobs. I have personal experience of them, particularly Polish people, and I find them to be earnest, honest, hard working and respectful.

At the same time, we have a small hard core of feckless native Britons, who won't work and expect the tax payer to provide all for them and their uncontrolled reproductive habits.

Because of the nature of the European Community agreements, we not only invite those decent people who want to work and who want to live in decent surroundings, but we also permit access to other nations underclasses who see our benefits system as a soft touch.

Personally, although I have a lot of respect for many of our recent migrants, I feel that we should first deal with our own work shy and thereafter, permit access to other citizens only if we have a job here that we require them to do.

Hoax

Think your talking from a limited experience there Graham.

Either that or we have all the trash down our way.

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Post by Westbone on Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:51 am

Whats this!!! self appointed admin. lol!

No one is mentioning political partys(untill you did) and so no one should.

It's about a situation. Which is different in different parts of the country.

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Post by xbarnesx on Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:14 am

I can vouch for Damian in that my parents live a few miles east of where I'm guessing he lives judging from his location and the council link
I'd say there about 5 years behind where Redbridge is now but working hard to catch up, the house next to my parents is owned by a charity of some description and the tenants tend to stay for anywhere between 3 and 12 months. I understand this may not be long enough to class somewhere as home but no excuse to treat it like a tip, there is regularly furniture and multiple bin bags in the drive and at one point a couple of feral cats called it home.

West is the way forward mate, if there were any jobs I'd be down in North Devon

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Post by westcoaster on Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:28 am

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Post by Westbone on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:04 am

No worries westcoaster. Smile

Man you have to see it to beleive it! cyclops

I'll stick a vid. up on you tube in a few days.

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Post by corsair on Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:28 am

Advance, Australia fair!


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Post by jim on Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:17 am

Damian, blaming it on asylum seekers and cheap labourers from 3rd world countries seems a bit unfair. Yes there is a problem, no denying. The biggest mistake in today's western society's I feel is this. People tend to forget how easy it is to condition a child's proper behaviour. Stick with it and it becomes a habit in no time. They will act accordingly without even thinking about it for it has become a habit. If however, these habits are not taught to people as kids it proves ten times harder to, as an adult, first de-conditioning bad habits before imprinting new, good habits!

I see it around me everywhere, filthy habits taking over, but it is certainly not restricted to asylum seekers instead it includes the spoiled, white, wasted rich and middle class and also tourists!! Youngsters becoming pill swallowing party-animals and alcohol-abusers leaving trash on the street has become so common it has become mainstream! I don't even blame them as much as I do their parents and our politicians! If you're unable to educate your kids, don't $%# take 'm for $#@sake!

One other thing is that it is not enough to adopt a foreigner from a different culture if one doesn't feel equally responsible to educate them and learn them how they're supposed to behave, that is highly political!
It is one thing to do away with apartheid it is another to learn a new way to behave as you obviously know. Political rulers however often live 'úptown', not in the outskirts.

Some would say there is a corporate elite that benefits the most from social unrest and chaos in the middle of society where issues become racist, nationalist or whatever and groups fight groups, the attention is thereby taken away from the banksters and corporations, the untouchable almost abstract entities that are meanwhile stealing all our taxmoney. The trend still being the wealthy elite getting richer and the poor getting poorer. I can feel your frustration and I lived through other crisis but seen from a more filosofical view I think it has a lot to do with the narcistic society and corrupted moral standards of our western hypocritic goverments that work not to the benefit of it's citizens but to the benefits of big corporations. It might have to do with a paradigm that teaches evolution is about survival of the fittest while Darwin can be interpreted otherwise we were taught the survival of the fittest theory and still act according to some of it's principals. Empathy is where moral standards originate even before there was religion. Hate and greed is not going to change things for the better. This is sort of how I think about it. If only we could live in a less ugly environment...

It's getting a tad off topic here! Some pics of my street 2 year's ago, some things changed to the better but the habits sort of remain, why would that be?... Link


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Post by Westbone on Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:40 pm

Bollx, It's called having a certain amount of respect for where you live.
Or lack of.

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Post by westcoaster on Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:50 pm

I cannot stand litter or those responsible so this is what I did once. A driver eating a macdonalds wound down his window and tossed the packaging out of the car - bin located 1 metre away from his door. I tapped his window, he wound I'd down slightly and I asked him to put it in the bin - result - a torrent of abuse. Unfortunately for him his sun roof was open so he got his litter back anyway. Unfortunately for his upholstery the drink he had with the meal wasn't empty.

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Post by gittarasaurus on Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:10 pm

whoever we are
where ever we're from
we shoulda noticed by now
our behavior is dumb

and if our chances
expect to improve
it's gonna take a lot more
than tryin to remove
the other race
or the other whatever
from the face of the planet
altogether

they call it the earth
which is a dumb kind of name
but they named it right
cause we behave the same
we are dumb all over

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Post by Westbone on Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:23 pm

Hey cool man, bring on the 70's
This is 2013. It's happening now!
Much too late around here.

Laughing

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Post by Iceman on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:56 pm

gittarasaurus wrote:whoever we are where ever we're from
we shoulda noticed by now our behavior is dumb
and if our chances expect to improve
it's gonna take a lot more than tryin to remove
the other race or the other whatever
from the face of the planet altogether
they call it the earth which is a dumb kind of name
but they named it right cause we behave the same
we are dumb all over

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Post by Westbone on Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:15 pm

Yeah, lets all have a party! cheers
It'll all go away....not

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