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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Catalyst on Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:12 pm

thanks guys.....is there anything to be gained by giving it a wipe down with meths just to remove any polish residue that might have been applied?
Its 30 years old and I'm surprised it hasn't been buffed to within an inch of its life already...

If all else fails, whats the best to do...polish it all to bring it up to a universal level of shine?...half matte with shiny patches looks a bit of a mess, although having said that...most of my guitars do anyway  Laughing 

If i'm a'polishing...whats the best type to use...i've heard numerous different methods?

Once again, thanks for your help Cool

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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:19 pm

I don't think it'll ever have a full deep gloss, I may be wrong but I think they used a matte lacquer.
meths, naptha and acetone will all clean it and have no problems.

you could take some fine wet/dry paper to it to get it matte, but it won't be great and will leave it open to every fingerprint.

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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Catalyst on Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:33 pm

not bothered about a full gloss finish....my top priority (if even possible) would be to take it back to its original finish, but it sounds like it could be too late.
I have a friend who is a french polisher..maybe he could offer some advice from his perspective..  scratch

Maybe he could remove its current finish and reapply the matte lacquer?....sounds easy enough to me... Laughing

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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Westbone on Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:49 pm

If it gets used it's gonna shine up regardless.

Unless you want a museum piece.

Make up a bicarb/baking soda paste and rub the gloss with a cloth. Don't worry it won't harm it.

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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Catalyst on Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:08 am

Thanks Westbone, tried the paste idea and it did the job...cheers 

The guitar is now shined up where you would expect it to through normal use, but the glossy polish applied by the previous owner has now gone.
It now looks like a good, honest guitar - which is how I like 'em Cool 
If they are too perfect they stay in their case...just ask my Aria FS1000, can't remember the last time I had that out Crying or Very sad 
Thanks again gents, another issue resolved.

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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Westbone on Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:11 am

No problem, I'll send the account no. LARGE deposits only...Laughing 

Makes an excellent chrome cleaner also.

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:09 pm

Hey Catalyst, remember this?


well..I've always fancied doing this, but held off until I recently bought a second Westbury in black.


Take one heat gun and one smooth wallpaper scraper.....



Nice and easy does it, heat it gently, keep the gun moving and never let the topcoat bubble.
this method does take some of the grain filler with the topcoat but a light sanding with 240/320/400grit then wet it all and 400 again, then burnish with a jaycloth till shiny, this leaves a nice workable finish,   I did the same with the Prestige back and neck, saves hours! and less messy!







Tru Oil again, this is after just one thin coat rubbed in hard.
It will get one more coat then left for a day or two, after that I'll apply each coat with wet'n'dry to create a slurry of mahogany/oil which will fill the grain, another 4 or 5 should do it.

The headstock will stay black, with a tiny wee bitty black nail varnish on the lacquer chips.

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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:25 pm

Almost done, just need new wriring as the old wire's buggered.
need to get some 4mm switch tips.



aaaaand......



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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:21 am

Been struggling to find a 4mm switch tip (other than daft neon colours)  that I could reshape for this, the original was kindly donated to the Prestige. 
So last night while watching Glastonbury I remembered the heli-coil kit I bought.... I had a spare 3mm tip in black which would do nicely. 
Just using the tap-handle I drilled by hand, tapped it and coiled the bugger,  5 mins work after countless hours fruitlessly searching! 
Just need to pop it in the Dremel and introduce the sandpaper...

I would have gone to westbone again but 3 new guitars recently have severely sapped the gas funds!


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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Catalyst on Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:43 pm

wowzer...that looks terrific mate...great big slab of mahogany with some strings attached, and it looks better than the wine red imo  Thumb Up

yet another successful project - you're getting quite a clever dick now ain't ya  Laughing

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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:16 pm

Thanksmman. 

Its actually the tools that do the clever stuff, I'm just learning to tell them how! 


I had a real soft spot for this ever since I opened your packag,  but now it feells entirely different,  very like a worn brown sg I tried in GuitarGuitar, but much, much heavier.

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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Meadows on Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:57 pm

There is a real honesty and simplicity about that natural finish now, to my eyes it enhances the body contours and detailing and shows off the wood, really classy Pete Smile

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Re: Pretty standard affair

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:20 am

Thanks! 
You're right about the body contours,  the French curve around the body face just stands out so much clearer. 
The feel of thin Tru Oil on this is silky organic,  just love it!

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