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Post by Annoying Twit on Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:24 am

I'm after an unlined fretless four string. I'm not actually restricting myself to a Westone or even a Japanese bass, I want something reasonably cheap that I can have a go with. However, in the sense of 'if you don't ask, you don't get', I'll put this wanted ad out to see if anything turns up.

I'm in Leicester and prefer localish. (I don't drive).

Personally I think I'll end up with a cheap Stagg P/J thing. However, I would definitely pay a bit more than the typical going price for them if the right bass was available.

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Re: Unlined fretless

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:31 am

If I may suggest something?
Stay way clear of Stagg, I made the mistake of buying one of their "fusion" basses a few years back when in need of a bass real quick for a project, was possibly THE worst instrument I ever saw, never again!

I used to own an old Columbus jazz style fretless which was superb, built like the proverbial outhouse with a good solid neck, and I paid peanuts for it, mind you this was way before people started adding zero's for the Japan stamp.

just my opinion.

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Post by Annoying Twit on Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:48 am

Thanks for the advice. I once played a Stagg fusion bass (fretted) and to be honest quite liked it. I'm aware of the reviews and that they seem to vary considerably, but some people seem happy with them. I was hoping for a local one so that I could have a go first and see if it's one of the better ones, or not.

I could buy a new Harley Benton from Thomann, but that would be in the 120s, and the most recent Thunder fretless to sell on basschat was 130, and in late 2012. So, it would seem that being very, perhaps very very, patient would be the way to go. I don't know if there were many fretless Spectrums, Concords, or other relatively inexpensive Westones made. (I've looked here, but even if it was still available 300 for a fretless Thunder III, is a bit more than I want to spend now).

I'd prefer unlined. If I compromise and go for lined, a Yamaha RBX260F is probably the correct option for me. But, I want to try 'real' fretless - no lines!

It's really frustrating in a way as in the distant past, I did own a Thunder 1 (previous owner converted to active) fretless bass, but gave it away!

Edit: Fretless Spectrum LX here. Quite like the sound. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF9m6O6J6Wk

Fretless Concord mentioned here. Is this a defret? I don't read German. http://www.guitarmaniacs.de/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?action=gallery&id=4588

I dunno if it's still available, but I've been offered a defretted Peavey bass for 50, which is worth it. But again, I'd prefer unlined and haven't given up yet.

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:05 am

Each to their own I guess, there was now way to lower the action on mine, other than to file down the saddles or drop the bridge into the body, tuners were poo, pots wouldn't tighten and the pups were weaker than baby pee, bought it new from GuitarGuitar too...

best of luck with your search!

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Post by Annoying Twit on Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:15 am

A Columbus fretless jazz sold here for 90 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COLUMBUS-JAZZ-BASS-FRETLESS-/221232194797?nma=true&si=9ANZ3qsK4EH066xoDQByl%252Byfq7g%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 No photos though.

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:42 am

That's a good price in todays market

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Post by Annoying Twit on Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:58 am

Prices vary a lot, but what would be a typical price for a Spectrum LX fretless?

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:40 pm

At this point I'll have to let the others step in, buying basses ain't my strong point.

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Re: Unlined fretless

Post by Annoying Twit on Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:15 pm

BTW: About the Stagg you had, did you try shimming the neck? I have a Shine bass that had very high action even with the bridge saddles all the way down and the nut filed. Shimming the neck helped quite a bit. I'm confident that if I need to take the action down any further (which would only happen if I could level the frets). It also has tuners that are loose when the strings aren't under tension, though they seem to hold tune reasonably well).

But I'll point out that I am listening to you. I think I want to have another go on a Stagg (even if fretted) before I buy one of those.

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Re: Unlined fretless

Post by Westbone on Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:00 pm

Get ya wallet out you tight a***d Twit.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WESTONE-1986-LX-X695BK-BASS-2-NECKS-ALL-ORIGINAL-BY-MATSUMOKU-OHSC-RARE-/141069872767?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d86b6e7f

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Re: Unlined fretless

Post by Annoying Twit on Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:15 pm

Holy Faeces Batman, that's a lot Very Happy

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Post by Westbone on Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:36 pm

That's a lot of Bass guitar

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Re: Unlined fretless

Post by Annoying Twit on Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:25 am

I still don't have an unlined fretless. Having thought about the advice here, I've gone off a Stagg. Having at least a vague idea what a fretless Thunder 1/1A would go for, I'm hesitant to spend more money on something else. (Fretless Korean Aria available on basschat for 150 posted, or simply go the Thomann Harley Benton route). But 'my' Thunder fretless has not yet come to papa.

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