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Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:37 am

Ok Fellas, dunno if you lot will be interested but I'll try and document it anyway.
The father-in-law brought this down for me to "have a look at...."  in other words, "sort it out free of charge".....bloody tightfisted Scotsman! (apologies to the resident fellows north of the border)

so....



as you can see the neck binding has gone, the frets don't have enough left on them to recrown, despite how they look in the pic.



A refret is a definate, should the zero-fret be the same height as the rest of the frets when finished?

I have the binding here, waiting on the fretwire. in the first pic you can see the frets originally fitted before the binding, but I'm thinking of fretting over the binding, mainly to avoid the pain in the ass of shaping the nubs after the frets are in, what are your thoughts guys?



On the Shergold site there are low stocks of these control plates, but I'm still waiting to be accepted on the forums before I can make enquiries for one, if that falls through it shouldnt be too much of a task to make one...



body has the usual poly finish cracks, more than common with these Shergolds, the body is made from Obeche wood.....yeh...me neither.
Don't want to refinish the body as it tells its own tales, but if he really wants to I guess I can have a pop at it, personally I like it, despite its  huge dinks.

There is a short circuit within the pickup, tap it and it comes on...so thats on the cards.
The wiring on these is terrifying, its a stereo output with the switch going between stereo and mono out, the pots are dual stacked affairs...I need to learn some poop here.  Smile 

thats it for now,  I think i need a stiff drink

Happy new year fellas!

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by westcoaster on Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:40 am

My take on zero fret - should be the same height.  Its just another fret. Just like playing with a capo on.

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Westbone on Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:51 pm

I'd string it up and play it first before refretting. It's a bass.
Obviously can't see the worst frets, can we?

If you do decide to fret it make sure you score down each side of the frets prior to removal.

Control plate is a doddle to make.

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:04 pm

Westbone wrote:I'd string it up and play it first before refretting. It's a bass.
Obviously can't see the worst frets, can we?

If you do decide to fret it make sure you score down each side of the frets prior to removal.

Control plate is a doddle to make.

Yeah thats the first thing I did, even under light finger pressure the strings are touching the board in a couple of places, I tried a very light pass or two with a couple of crowning files and there's not enough left to crown.

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Westbone on Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:13 pm

Neck relieve?

What's wrong with the strings touching the board as long as the string notes out on the fret.


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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by hoax on Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:16 pm

Sarge

The zero fret should be slightly higher than the first fret, just as the nut slots themselves should be if there was no zero fret.

Good luck with that one!

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:05 pm

Thanks Hoax, I was thinking the same, but having no experience with one before I was by no means certain.

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:08 pm

Westbone wrote:Neck relieve?

What's wrong with the strings touching the board as long as the string notes out on the fret.
not much I guess, except for marking the board itself like a fretless with roundwounds on.

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Westbone on Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:40 pm

Sgt. Vimes wrote:
Westbone wrote:Neck relieve?

What's wrong with the strings touching the board as long as the string notes out on the fret.
not much I guess, except for marking the board itself like a fretless with roundwounds on.


 What?? Good luck

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by grogg on Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:02 pm

Sgt. Vimes wrote:

I have the binding here, waiting on the fretwire. in the first pic you can see the frets originally fitted before the binding, but I'm thinking of fretting over the binding, mainly to avoid the pain in the ass of shaping the nubs after the frets are in, what are your thoughts guys?


Fret over the binding if that's easier for you, its the normal way surely.

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by hoax on Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:51 am

If you do binding first will have to remove a few millimetres from the tangs at the ends. It is a pain in the neck laborious job.

I have never done nibs in the binding, but would probably rather do that than undercutting all the tangs.

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:45 am

Yeah and I'm buggered if I'm spending £60 on a tang nipper.
Yes it's labouring but I need to learn patience, too often I've come undone trying to cut corners.

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by corsair on Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:01 am

Do the job properly and nip the tangs off!! buy some cheap end nippers from B&Q and grind the bevel on the jaws flat!!

I feel sure that a bound fretboard should hide the tangs, eh!!

... oh, and tell the owner that he's shelling out some wedge for tools and gear!!  Thumb Up 

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:25 am

Waay ahead of you John, I've a few pairs of flat end cutters.
Waay ahead of you John,  he's been charged for 5m of fretwire already ;-)


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Post by hoax on Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:36 am

5 metres!! Excellent that will give you 3 free refrets for yourself.

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:18 am

Exactly  Wink 
wait till he finds out he has also bought a 35º/90º degree fret bevel file thingy too!

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by corsair on Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:34 pm

Good lad!

My work here is done.....

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:44 pm

I might be on to something here.....anyone else need some old junk botched up?

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:06 pm

Well had a good crack at the neck today.

superglue to attatch the binding, starting at the heel.


stick about 6" at a time, clamping along the way.


Let the scraping begin!.....cought the board a couple times, no big deal as it'll buff out.



3mm jumbo's!
the new 35º/90º file works beautifully.



Almost done.
Took the pickup apart to find the loose connection, sorted that and cleaned the pots and switches' crackles.
This thing sounds amazing, BIG BIG bass! new fender strings give it some zing. I want it Smile

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Westbone on Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:29 pm

Turned out nice eh. Keep it??.... for sure.

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:18 pm

It's not mine to keep unfortunately, although I might try and talk him into a swap for something "better"......

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Re: Shergold Marathon restoration

Post by Westbone on Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:28 pm

Smooth talking barsteward.... Cool

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