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Post by hoax on Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:33 pm

Brimy can ask what he likes for his guitar. It is only his business and that of a genuine prospective buyer.

I really do not think that negotiations should take place within the public forum. If the PM system had been used here then this matter would not have escalated.

This is another example of friction being caused by people commenting on someone's for sale item and it could be perceived as a bit of grandstanding.

If you don't like the item or the price, don't buy it or alternatively contact the seller privately.

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Post by Westbone on Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:05 pm

Well the PM messaging wasn't used was it.

Commenting on a guitar and/ or it's price is fair game mate.
That's what forums are about, aren't they... Smile 

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Post by Barry on Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:03 pm

If you post a "For Sale" item in the public forum and add the For Sale icon, then you need to be prepared for reactions from the public (us).

At minimum, detailed pictures are mandatory. To not show why you're asking so much is to invite scorn and disbelief.

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Post by hoax on Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:37 pm

I am sorry Barry, but I just cannot agree with what you say. If I post something for sale, whether it be Ebay, Gumtree or any other internet platform, then I am looking to sell it, nothing else.

The clue should be the title of the sub forum i.e. "For Sale" not "Have a Good Old Laugh and Criticise my Item"

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Post by Barry on Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:00 pm

But that happens regularly here Graham. Lots of comments on the eBay, et al, postings, particularly the perceived value of the item.

Just look at that deranged bugger on eBay who insists on "improving" the Westies by inserting a lipstick pickup into every nook and cranny.
And I'd still stand by the comment about proper pictorial representation of the item.

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Post by gittarasaurus on Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:47 pm

Snackin 
playing whatsoncraigslisttoday, we find...

spectrum FX on Scranton PA craigslist 


they are asking for $265, or about £159 
pictures too...

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Post by corsair on Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:47 pm

I think it's unfortunate that the new bloke got savaged as he did; there seemed little call for that when a simple "Thats too expensive" would have sufficed.

I agree that one small pic isn't ideal when the asking price is so high, but also that the setting of a sale price is between buyer and seller, regardless of asking price.

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Post by hoax on Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:22 pm

OK

The "deranged bugger on Ebay" (MD Philips) is a good case in point. He has never posted on here, to my knowledge. He chooses to get a bit "creative" with his own guitars, and he gets flamed and ridiculed for it. 

He then has the audacity to alter a beat up Westone headless, in his own way, and some members work themselves into a frenzy of indignation. It was a mangled 30 year old budget guitar, owned by himself that he chose to cast his magic upon. As far as I know he neither killed anyone nor fiddled with kiddies, so lets just grow up a bit and be a bit more dignified. There are more important things to get worked up about.

If anyone is interested in a guitar posted on these boards and they don't like the pictures then all they have to do is privately request more.

If I attempt to sell something, then it is not up to me to justify the price to all and sundry within an internet forum. That is something that may take place during private negotiations. 

I will repeat that if I don't like something or if I think that it is too expensive, I won't buy it. I certainly won't bitch about here or anywhere else.

This is still a great forum but some people should maybe get out a little bit more.

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Post by Westbone on Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:51 am

Well your certainly Bitchin' now... lol! 

You forget a guitar forum is where you discuss guitars be them good or in some folks opinion bad. People talk/discuss. That's how it is!

If no-one posted an opinion on here it would be empty.

However you like to conduct your own business is your endevour but fortunately not everyone is the same.

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Post by The Don on Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:49 am

If I was selling that (on that tiny, tiny, picture nice looking) FX I'd make every effort to describe the guitar fully for both the non-Westone and Westone buyer. For the non-Westone owner I'd give an overview of the guitar and highlight how flexible it is with all the pickup combinations and how powerful it sounds. For Westone owners I'd stress that the original knobs are present and correct and all parts of the bridge and string lock work well (if this is the case).

For all potential buyers I'd describe the guitar's condition as accurately as I could and if there are any exceptional points (either damage or lack of damage to easily damaged parts) I'd describe and photograph them. I wouldn't do this to satisfy the curiosity of a bunch of people on a web forum, I'd do it to maximise the chances of actually selling the guitar for close to what I want for it.

Hoax is of course right, a potential buyer can ask for more pictures or even see the guitar in person, but IMO that Gumtree advert isn't the kind of advert that's going to tempt someone into that.

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Post by Barry on Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:20 pm

hoax wrote:... some people should maybe get out a little bit more.
I do get out.
But I often cannot find my way home again.  Crying or Very sad

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Post by The Don on Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:00 am

Not wishing to flog a dead horse but the FX appears to still be for sale on Gumtree for every-decreasing amounts:

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/westone-spectrum-fx-matsumoku-1986-or-trade-for-7-string/1058036642

The latest advert. doesn't even have a photo at all and lacks any kind of a description. If I was advertising a guitar for the neck end of £300 as a minimum I'd tell people what colour and shape it is and what kind of condition it's in. It's an almost willfully bad advert. The full text of the advert. is:

Matsumoku top of the rage spectrum FX 10/10 reviews. Amazing instrument. 
Plays and sounds superb.

 Thinking


edited to add......

At least the eBay ad has a couple of (tiny) pictures

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/westone-1986-spectrum-FX-/251511377597?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a8f3f0ebd

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Post by punkyjam67 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:17 am

The Don wrote:At least the eBay ad has a couple of (tiny) pictures

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/westone-1986-spectrum-FX-/251511377597?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a8f3f0ebd
Does anyone know if this is a private sale or from a shop? All the photos are definitely taken in a shop (it looks very similar to the layout in our local Cash Converters, if I'm honest, with amps on rack shelving around the walls & guitars on floor stands...). If it IS a shop, that might explain the 'generous' pricing...  Thinking 

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Post by The Don on Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:45 am

It's confusing. The eBay photographs seem to indicate that it is in a shop of some kind and yet the address indicated in the Gumtree ad is in a residential area. I suppose that there are a number of possible explanations:

- The seller works in the shop but for convenience is selling from home
- There are 2 Spectrum FXs for sale in Hemel Hempstead
- The guitar is for sale in a shop for x, the ads are from private seller who wants to sell for more than x but won't buy until they are sure of a sale

I *feel* that there is something fishy here, otherwise why the crappy ads and vague descriptions.

Meanwhile there's another FX for sale in Llangollen with a buy it now price of £150 and a few decent pictures

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Spectrum-FX-1980s-Made-in-Japan/310926548484?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222003%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D6406824351718558317%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D20140122125356%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D251511377597&rt=nc

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Post by punkyjam67 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:47 am

I personally think there was something a bit 'off' right from the get-go, when you have an individual selling an FX because they can't get on with it (to quote: "I'm not really a wangy guy either and for my unorthodox type style the left hand is compromised somewhat with the trem"), but at the same time advertising for another FX because they love them so much...

The strange adverts & photos do nothing to reassure me, either...

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Post by The Don on Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:12 am

My current feeling is that the seller is not the current owner of the Spectrum FX but thinks that they can get hold of it and sell it at a profit.

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Post by The Don on Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:04 am

I realise I'm getting a little obsessive about this but I want to see how all this plays out....

Now the Gumtree advert has 4 (small) pictures, a slightly lower albeit IMO still very optimistic price and some factual inaccuracies.

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/westone-spectrum-fx-matsumoku-1986/1058036642

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