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Post by Barry on Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:34 pm

Well...didn't I go and do it again!  Rolling Eyes 
Just when I thought my GAS was all gone. It wasn't.

I have been feeling rather low and sorry for my bad self, especially with this bloody arthritis, etc. So getting yet another guitar that would frustrate the hell out of me wasn't on my radar. Then, I saw a Kijiji ad for a Vantage electric guitar. 

I couldn't tell exactly what model it was from the 3 fuzzy pix but it looked like it might be either a VP700 (set neck) or a *gasp* VA800 (neck thru). And the price could not be ignored. What a Face  So-o-o long story short, I hoped in the car drove to the far side of Toronto to have a look.

It was love at first grab!  So Happy
I flipped her over to reveal that she was a set neck model VP700 (or more precisely, a VP710 because of the finish). As near as the boyz on the Mats forum can figure from the obscure serial numbering system and a few other clues, this is looks like a 1981 build. She's bloody amazing!

So far I have done nothing to her. It's been raining here most of the day so no chance to get outside and do the usual tear down and documentation pix, but here are some quick ones I took before the deluge with my phone cam:












The only "issues" so far are cosmetic. The knobs have been replaced with some horrible white thingy's, and a previous owner had replaced the screw in the neck side strap button with a...wait for it...nailEvil or Very Mad  The mini toggle is a little bit wobbly so it may need replacing at some point, but other than that and few minor bumps, she's perfect! No fret or fingerboard wear, and she still has the original plastic sticky paper over the cavity cover and TRC!

She's as comfortable as humanly possible with incredibly low action, a bone nut, and a recessed bridge. Plays like whale snot! And of course, MMK45's so she looks like a beauty queen but punches you up the throat when yer not paying attention! God, what a lovely guitar!

I'll be tearing her down over the next few days and documenting it over at the Matsomoku Forum if you care to follow the progress.


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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:46 pm

Very nice indeedy... Smile
Sure those are 45's?

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:39 am

Westbone wrote:...Sure those are 45's?
Nope. Not yet.
I hope to be stripping her down today and I'll know for sure.

Deep down, I'm hoping they're 53's  What a Face
But to avoid disappointing myself I'm saying 45's. None of my gits have 53's so this will be my first if it turns out to be the case. On a quick play with old strings, they sound wonderful what ever they are.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:31 am

61 + 53... Smile possibly.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:06 pm

Fingers crossed.  cyclops

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Catalyst on Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:27 pm

fingers crossed here for ya mate....a 61 and a 53 sound like a great combo   Thumb Up

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Meadows on Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:29 pm

Lovely guitar Barry, do you know what the woods are?

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by mortarman120gang11c on Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:47 pm

Best of luck  and that's a beauty and a rare one at that. Congrats

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BOO YA!!

Post by Barry on Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:29 pm



Neck: 7.73 /3.94
Bridge: 11.39 / 5.78
Both: 4.60 / 3.30


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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:35 pm

Meadows wrote:Lovely guitar Barry, do you know what the woods are?
The usual Maple and Walnut down the centre.
3-piece Maple neck with Ash veneer on headstock front.
Wings are Ash, finished in "Harvest Ash" rather than the more common dark walnut stain.

Looks heavy but is surprisingly light.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:38 pm

mortarman120gang11c wrote:Best of luck  and that's a beauty and a rare one at that. Congrats
Cheers Arthur. She is even more lovely after a bit of scrub-a-dub and new wires.

And Holy S**T! Those pickups plus the set neck and string thru make my Thunder sound like a transistor radio!  Shocked

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:18 am

That's a beaut Barry,  congratulations!

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:19 am

Your a happy bunny, you should be.. Laughing 

The bone nut, steel saddles make a great deal of difference. Plus those pups.
Not all that fond of brass nuts.
Notice all Westone upper end guitars have bone nuts from around '83.  TunderII, Session. Rainbow, Prestige etc. and some steel saddles. Plus 53, 61, 75's.

I really like these 53 equipped. Bone nut steel saddles '83 on. As one on the right. Simple controls.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:22 am

Yessiree! This pickup combo has got to be the best that I've heard from Uncle Mats. And I suspect rivals popular Seymour Duncan/Dimarzio pairings out there.

It gave me the same startle reflex that I got when I first plugged in the Thunder and kicked in its active circuit. The difference, to my fractured ears at least, is more articulation and clarity...along with the power!

That 61 can be a mellow Blues/Jazz monster or a straight ahead Rocker. And the 53? Well, a regular blowtorch, if you need it. I'll wager there would be no problem even being heard above the drummer!

A few more pix and comments over at the Mats site.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by The Chad on Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:51 am

Barry, you hit the lottery on that one!   cheers   What a great pickup combo!!!

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by mortarman120gang11c on Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:50 pm

It does not get any better than that my friend. That has to be an awesome pickup combination.

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New Pix

Post by Barry on Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:28 pm

The weather this weekend finally warmed up and became Summer-like for the first time in many days.
As there is apparently more heavy rain forecast later today and the next couple of days, I sprinted outside for a few new pix with the camera. The sun is very strong today, almost too bright.

Biggest visual change is the knob replacement. I have yet to get a black switch tip.
 






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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:51 pm

That looks in super condition, as well as sounding good!!.. Smile

If you need a Mats type switch tip?? I'll send you a few. I need the old knobs that you had on it.. Very Happy

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:08 pm

I left them at the shop in the junk drawer. Neutral 
But I can retrieve them on Wednesday when I'm in, assuming Bob hasn't used them or given them away!

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:25 pm

Westbone wrote:...I need the old knobs that you had on it...
They're on their way as I type.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:24 am

Just seen this post!!
Cheers Barry.. cheers 

Does a Mats tip fit your vantage? or is it a different switch?

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:35 am

Westbone wrote:...Does a Mats tip fit your vantage?
Yup! Just tried a Spectrum tip on it. Same thread.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:22 pm

On their way..obviously black any other colour? cream/ivory.
Send you a few.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:25 pm

Surprise me.  affraid 

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:23 pm

That was quick, arrived today... Smile 

Cheers Barry.

Yours is on the way.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:56 pm

Excellent! That was quick.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:01 pm

Look familiar?

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:08 pm

Yes, looks a lot like a guitar I was outbid on!

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:12 pm

Laughing  £71.99

Bought a brand new one of those back in '81 for £50 but sold it on a few years later, fool! It was still like brand new.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:25 pm

Swine Damian.
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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:39 am

It's no Vantage/Aria/Westone but is a Mats made.. Wink

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:14 am

Hondo....

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:07 am

Sgt. Vimes wrote:Hondo....
H 1030....

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:24 am

If it's the same one,  I was put off by the playwear between the pickups. 
61's in a 1030!?  Only seen 45's or dm's in these hondos,  good score mate!

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:36 pm

Westbone wrote:That was quick, arrived today... Smile 

Cheers Barry.

Yours is on the way.
Picked up the mail today! Cheers mate. Very nice.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:39 am

Barry wrote:
Westbone wrote:That was quick, arrived today... Smile 

Cheers Barry.

Yours is on the way.
Picked up the mail today! Cheers mate. Very nice.
Geez, quicker than the mail in the UK!!

Especially as we have a dyslectic postman! Keeps putting all the mail in the wrong houses, can't even read the bloody numbers. He's an import from an eastern land... Laughing

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New selector tip & mini switch!

Post by Barry on Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:34 pm



Thanks again Damian!

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:36 pm

Again, that's a cracking looking guitar Barry,  love the colour!

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Meadows on Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:08 am

Just in case anyone state side fancies a VP, just came across this little fella....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vantage-700vp-Electric-Guitar-MIJ-/331361381009?pt=Guitar&hash=item4d26ad6a91

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by David_A on Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:47 pm

What a lovely-looking guitar. I like the symmetrical body shape. It looks quite wide; does it sit higher when resting on your knee? 
I must admit I don't know anything about Vantage, nor do I know much about all the other brand names from this era, but I'd like to learn more. Is there a post that has already covered this topic, by any chance?

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:03 pm

A good place to start your education is over at the Matsumoku information pages: CLICK HERE
Vantage was primarily a Canadian private label but is found world wide.

If you need more in depth discussion you'll find lots in the Forums: CLICK HERE
Scroll down for specific brands, including Vantage. Wink

As for the size no, its quite small, not wide at all. More along the lines of an SG. Very comfortable to play.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by David_A on Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:51 pm

Thanks Barry, I have a lot of reading to do!  study

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Westbone on Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:27 pm

Barry wrote:

Thanks again Damian!
Just seen this post.

See it's fitted.... Smile  smart!

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by anaerobe on Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:40 pm

Just catching up with this - nice axe Barry.  Great pickups.

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Re: Vantage VP700 (710)

Post by Barry on Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:28 pm

Hey, thanks Ian! Where ya been? Long time no hear.

"Great" don't begin to describe these pups. Friggin' amazing more like!

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