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Post by Barry on Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:55 pm

When I got my Vantage Entertainar some years ago and restored her, I was a happy dude!
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Wonderful guitar, and very beautiful to boot. I did post at that time about the fact that she was, unfortunately, quite neck heavy which made stand up playing a challenge

I recently picked up another Vantage, a VP710 this time.
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Again, a fantastic guitar, and also beautiful. But again, she's neck heavy, something I didn't realize until I finally put a strap on her.

So, the question to the choir is, "what do you do?" Is this a question of changing the strap pin location, something I'd prefer not to do since it means drilling more holes, especially in the VP since it's a set neck. Other than swinging a counter weight off the bottom pin or using a bass strap (ugh!), has anyone got a remedy for nose diving guitars?

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Post by Meadows on Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:51 pm

Found this Barry which might help??? (idea/solution number three looks promising) Good luck Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOsjORziFoc


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Post by Barry on Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:23 pm

Wow!Shocked

Thanks (I think).
I spend so much of my time at the shop troubleshooting "humming" issues caused by bad grounding problems, that I could not imagine deliberately stuffing metal BB's into the electronics control cavity!

Wow!

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Post by Meadows on Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:01 am

A "another" school of thought

http://guitarless.com/2010/06/prevent-neck-heavy-guitar-headstock-diving/

A suede strap seems to be favoured by a lot of SG players too.......


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Post by Barry on Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:21 am

Thanks again Si, 'preciate the info. The Heads Up idea looks interesting, however, they appear to be out of business. At least their site domain is for sale. Neutral

I think one of the boyz on the Mats site recommended some time ago the do something similar by way of a small weighted bag wrapped around the strap with a Velcro type closure. Not as neat and tidy as the Heads Up design but I suppose it would work.

Adding more weight to a guitar is always problematic if you are standing for any length of time though. Looks like the simplest solution might be a suede strap.

Don't seem to have this problem with the Westones, only some Vantage models.

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A DIY Solution?

Post by Barry on Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:02 am

I may have found a solution.

This bass player seems to have hit on an idea that could work. Mind you he's dealing in much heavier weights than would likely be required for guitars, but the approach is a good one methinks.


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The video is perhaps easier to follow than the text explanation, dude has a tendency to ramble on a bit at the start though. He gets into the "how to" at about the 4:40 mark. And there are some closeup shots of the final product at the end.

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Post by Meadows on Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:39 am

Good find, I like his approach and it is ultimately very affordable and does not effect the instrument in any way. Might have a go at making one of those for my Futurama bass, it's certainly a lot more dignified than currently dragging a brick on some string off the rear strap button No

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Post by The Chad on Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:28 pm

As an SG owner, I can testify to the suede strap. Works just great.

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Post by The Chad on Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:33 pm

Though it pulls funny, kind of bothers you. Pulls your shirt down weird.

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Post by The Don on Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:44 am

The Chad wrote:Though it pulls funny, kind of bothers you. Pulls your shirt down weird.

Well play without a shirt on Very Happy

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Post by Barry on Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:50 am

The Chad wrote:Though it pulls funny, kind of bothers you. Pulls your shirt down weird.
That would bother the hell out of me too. Just as distracting as the neck diving. Neutral

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