'90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

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'90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by marvin3242 on Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:34 am

Hey guys,
So my dad has this 1990 Spectrum DLX (all black hardware, you know how it is) and its in horrible condition. I've already taken off the neck, taken care of the threats, and fixed some rotten tuning pegs, but I've got a problem for my next step.

The tremolo master is completely ruined. 

I know its a cheap part and a common problem (http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t3292-so-i-got-this-crappy-mik-spectrum-dlx-okay?highlight=spectrum) but how do y'all recommend going about this? I can give pics if that would help
Thanks in advance!

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by corsair on Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:12 am

The Deluxe in the catalogue has a licensed Floyd Rose copy; you're saying that yours has a Bendmaster?? Cool!!
Anyway, they're not as bad as people make them out to be - in fact, I quite like mine - once you know the tricks to setting them up!
Cleaning them up should be no major; take it off the guitar, strip it down after taking photos of it for later re-assembly and hook into the bits with a fine bronze brush, or a rag and some white spirits,or whatever Damian suggests - he'll be along directly!!
Yeah... pics wouldn't hurt, eh?!

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by marvin3242 on Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:16 am

Ive never had to restore a Westone before so I could be quoting the model wrong. Pics on the way!
And yeah, its completely destroyed

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by corsair on Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:22 am

If it is wrecked, then follow the links in that thread you quoted and acquire a nice new GFS one, perhaps??

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by marvin3242 on Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:31 am

http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/19/15/07/31/img_5611.jpg
http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/19/15/07/31/img_5612.jpg

I guess. I just didn't know if anyone had a cheaper alternative, if it would be better to go to a fixed bridge setup, or what. He's not attatched to the tremolo but I'd like to keep it close to original. If you can't tell, I've never really had to work on one of these before, so treat me like a total newbie lol.

Thanks for all the help so far!

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by corsair on Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:05 pm

Well, I've got a NOS sustain block for a Bendmaster FT trem here; I wonder if that will fit?

I'll go out and measure it and we'll take it from there....

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by Barry on Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:53 pm

Didn't Arthur (MortarMan) have a similar problem with a crumbling sustain block in a Phoenix recently? scratch

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by marvin3242 on Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:22 pm

Thanks to both of yall
Thanks for the help corsair
And barry, ill definitely go look into it. I just joined the forums this morning so im still kinda new.

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by corsair on Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:22 am

Does this help any??


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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by marvin3242 on Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:14 am

Nope. Mine has a different shape, spacings, and dimensions :/ 
http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/19/15/07/31/img_3111.jpg
http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/19/15/07/31/img_3112.jpg
http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/19/15/07/31/img_3113.jpg
http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/19/15/07/31/img_3114.jpg

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by marvin3242 on Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:25 am

Just found a post on the gibson forums entitled "Help! - Epi 635i - Broken bridge block - Floyd Rose tremolo     (Can't post links for 6 more days.)

Thats the exact one in mine. looks like my best bet is to go with the replacement floyd rose. So i guess thats what ill do. Ill keep posting if there are any more problems. Thanks!

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by Westbone on Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:36 am

Geez, that old pot metal self destructing. Bad!!

Post a photo of the actual bridge

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by marvin3242 on Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:35 pm

http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/19/15/07/31/img_3115.jpg
actual "floyd rose" bridge. Still confused on why it says floyd rose but its not a floyd rose if anyone could enlighten me there

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by Westbone on Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:46 pm

Bit of a mongrel that!

Who knows what patents were pending back then.

Probably just stuck on what they had in Korea at the time.

Try these???
http://www.guitarfetish.com/NEW-BLACK-Super-Heavy-Duty-Floyd-Rose-trem-BRASS-STEEL_p_510.html

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by Westbone on Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:59 pm

These guys might help.
http://www.fu-tone.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66&zenid=mukuugr1qrgqt78lhctcqm9k24

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by gittarasaurus on Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:49 pm

marvin3242 wrote:http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/19/15/07/31/img_3115.jpg
actual "floyd rose" bridge. Still confused on why it says floyd rose but its not a floyd rose if anyone could enlighten me there
take a look here

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by marvin3242 on Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:30 pm

Awesome! I had seen some others reference that kit with a positive attitude, so its the best option as it also has a higher quality lock nut.

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Re: '90 Spectrum DLX Tremelo problems

Post by corsair on Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:51 pm

Sorry I couldn't help but looks like you're well on the way!!

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