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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:16 am

Ok spring is in the air and we have a few projects to start on.
First up is this T1, needs attention to the fingerwear areas so a whole refinish is in order, plus I quite enjoy it Smile



Interesting grain on the wings here, a few bumps here'n'there which hopefully will sand out.


Some deep old finger/pick wear, should come out fine.


Frets are fine, just some light crowning needed to get em up to newish, forgot to take a pic of the board between 11th and 12th, some scraping therewhich will need attention.


the top bit


the back bit


the top back bit Smile


the long thin bit


the denty bit


the scrapy/denty bit

I won't be keeping this one, so colours could be to order........watch this space.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:20 pm

Quickie update:

took off the worn areas and a few dents with 120grit.


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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Clive Shakedown on Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:26 pm

Looks like you have a good job there.
I did one last year, and sprayed it with a rattle can of clear satin cellulose, then just waxed it up, you can still see the grain but I didn't have to worry about a high gloss finish and all that buffing.
check out the lustre....


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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:28 pm

Very nice!

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:35 pm

Update:

dyed the grainfiller black and rubbed it in nice an hard, so Sunday I sand that back then its colour-me time! I think I'm going to go with a forresty green, though I tried a few purple efforts with Keda powder dye and looks good on black/purple burst, maybe for a non-winged guitar eh.

pics Sunday if the weather holds up.

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Post by corsair on Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:31 pm

Ahhhh... it's Sunday here, man....Laughing

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:47 am


Stained




2 coats of oil in.


8 coats in, flatted back a couple of times.
not sure if I like the green yet....

No neck pics yet, but I've recrowned, sanded the scratches out of the board, stained and oiled the headstock, another couple coats of oil then the waterslide decal and a few more coats.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Barry on Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:34 pm

not sure if I like the green yet....
Looking way better than the original, regardless Pete.
It might be the light reflection but it appears to have a bit of blue in the green?
Not so much Sherwood Forest as bordering on Irish spring...I like it, it has a bit of life to it eh?

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:37 pm

There's a little blue at certain angles, but I think what you're seeing is the natural coloured grainfiller dyed black, which ended up grey, then bluey-grey on the wood!
But yeah as you say it is certainly more alive than original.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Westbone on Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:05 pm

Not sure on the green neither.. Don\'t Know but looks a nice job.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:08 pm

Rothko & Frost Emerald green spirit based stain,  fecking horrible to work with, should have gone with the aniline powder dye coz this poop just doesn't seem to soak into the grain, just sits on top waiting to be smeared around by the next application, then the oil.
last....time...ever...

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Westbone on Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:54 pm

That's because you sealed it first with the grainfiller.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:59 pm

Doesn't happen with aniline dyes.  The blue thunder didn't smear with grain filler.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by corsair on Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:12 pm

Oooooooh, liking this! 

Hmmmm.... when I used spirit based stain - on the Urchin - I had no troubles at all; it soaked in as fast as I could get it on. I'd used black to make make the grain pop as well....

Regardless, looking good, mate!

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:26 pm

Thank. 
It could be just this green,  or this batch... I used these same stains on the urchin,  same problems.  I'm not ruling out my inexperience though.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by BriGuy1968 on Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:55 pm

Very nice... I REALLY like the green (even though you're not sold on it).  Looks great and makes me VERRRRRRRRY jealous.  If you need someone to look after it here in the states for any reason... well... you know!   Cool

In my opinion, green is a great color for guitars if for no other reason than most people don't have 'em!  My main acoustic is a green Ovation Celebrity Deluxe CS247, and when I play it places people notice it... just because it's green!

Awesome job!

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:21 am

Well thank'ee very kindly good sir!

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:46 am



Waterslide decals printed off, getting closer!

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Adey on Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:43 am

The satellite neck-through I refinished recently was a similar shade of green and ended up alright in the end.
I think that if I did it again though, I would probably put a few more coats of colour on...

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:50 am

Yeah mate, that's what this reminds me  of. 
Ive given this a good going over with wire wool and a buffing with a cloth,  looks much better with a soft sheen than the gloss earlier.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:30 am


A tiny bit bigger than original, but certainly effective.
Just the bottom edge to work on as I cut it out big enough to trim the top and sides flush.
Next up some clear coats.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:57 am

Mock up time!



or..



If I go with the cream 45's, it'll have to be black surrounds as the cream neck is (obviously) snapped.

whatcha think?

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:59 am



logo done, everything in place apart from the pickups and possibly the nut channel needing a file down after I recrowned the frets.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Adey on Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:55 pm

I like the cream pickups and the cream surounds...

Best find a replacement for the broken one!


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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:57 pm

Easier said than done!  50mm mount holes are tricky to find.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Barry on Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:57 pm

Liking the creme version too. Could ya maybe get creative with some crazy glue and a "donor" transplant mounting ring part?

And the green looks really good in those shots.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:17 am

Thanks, I think I prefer the cream too.
Had a look around the shed and house for something to fix the ring with, to no avail as yet.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Westbone on Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:58 am

Try these. Used them before a slight difference to Mats.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUMBUCKER-Flat-based-NECK-or-BRIDGE-PICKUP-SURROUND-RINGS-in-CREAM-or-BLACK-/191282594764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=490400405543&hash=item2c8954c3cc

50mm mount holes???? where you get that from? That's BIG!

Filing out the nut channel affraid

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Catalyst on Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:19 am

Nice work again Sarge... Cool

Not 100% on the green though, seems a bit wishy washy to me.....just my warped opinion of course as everyone else seems to like it  Laughing

Black would get my vote with a light green, adds a bit of definition.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:34 am

Cheers guys. 
Westbone I'd looked at those but the screw holes don't match the mats. 
50mm? auto correct strikes again!

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Post by Westbone on Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:41 am

Your talking .5mm. Used them and still got the screws in the Mat holes.

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:06 am

No I meant the distance between the mount holes

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Post by Westbone on Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:31 am

I know they fit I've used 'em.

Mats are 82.5mm x 37.5 approx.

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:35 am

OKccheers

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:13 pm

All done,(barr the pup rings) buffed to a semi sheen finish.













Fresh set of EB slinky 10's, with the fret dress it plays ver ver nice indeedy, the feel of an oil finish neck really is something to behold, was going to put some Gretsch style gold knobs on, but I'm not keeping it so the new owner can choose Smile
lost a lb or so with sanding Smile down to 7 1/2 lbs or thereabouts.

Offers welcome....

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Post by Meadows on Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:35 pm

Very smart indeed, looks less rock and more jazz fusion with the beige pup vibe, job well done Pete Smile , are you pleased with the way the project turned out overall?

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:39 pm

Thanks Si.
Yes, very pleased, the plan was (like the blue one last year) to finish up with a vintage feeling instrument, and that's what I have.
Learning all the way eh, I went for the grain to be filled a bit more than the blue, just to see if I could, and while it's not 100% it's very close, another 5 or 6 coats of oil and I think I couldn't feel any grain.

EDIT: grain filled on the ash, not the maple or walnut.

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Post by BriGuy1968 on Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:44 pm

Lovely!

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Post by Catalyst on Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:52 pm

Cream pups look great....can't believe i suggested the black  Laughing

Yet another sweet job sarge,  Thumb Up

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:18 pm

I can believe you suggested black Smile 

Thanks for the kind words guys.

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Post by Barry on Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:27 pm

Almost a surfing vibe going on there, Dick Dale meets the Leprechaun. Razz
Liking it a lot Pete.

Next one...Gretsch Orange! Hey, yer running out o' colours.

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:32 pm

Well... Purple, dark purple,  or magenta were on my mind.... But gretsch orange....interesting... Watch this space..

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Post by Shumer on Fri May 22, 2015 9:56 am

I love that green. I've began a restoration and wish I'd gone green. It's appropriate as I now have envy! Great job

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri May 22, 2015 1:17 pm

Thanks! 
Shumer don't be shy with your photos mind!  "pics or it didn't happen"  as the Internet says Smile

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Post by mortarman120gang11c on Fri May 22, 2015 3:08 pm

Cool That turned out very nice indeed and I love the color and cream pickups. If she ever needs a new home I can provide a great one. Looks great Nice work.

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Re: '83 Thunder 1 resto/refin

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri May 22, 2015 3:28 pm

Thanks man! 

The thunder is a great guitar for an easy refinish, lots of fun Smile

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:07 pm

OK folks,  I am restricting myself to a firm 1 in 1 out system as I simply do not have room for any more,  so this greenie is up for offers, interested parties should  see me in my office —>

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Post by The Chad on Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:19 pm

Whoa...  Shocked   Very nice! 

That is a very pleasant looking guitar.  Sharp and very well appointed.  The gold, cream, green, nice grain, rosewood, everything works together amazingly. 

Excellent work Sarge!!!  Thumb Up

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:20 pm

Thanks,  it's fun learning skillz and making less mistakes each time.

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