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Are you Bleeding?

Post by Barry on Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:41 pm

Just been revisiting the controversial practice of adding a trebel bleed circuit to your volume pot.
I've never bothered with it since I don't play (didn't play) a lot of lead. But from what I understand, this may be a useful mod on a humbucker equipped guitar. Single coils, not so much.

Playing style also appears to be a factor, depending on what else you plug into your signal chain, where on the volume sweep you prefer to be, etc.

So what's your experience? Worthwhile addition, or just a big 'ole load of poo?
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Re: Are you Bleeding?

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:06 pm

I do it on single coiled guits mostly,  used when full volume is set to break up quite a bit and I can play clean yet without muddiness rolled back a bit. 

For HB  guits I've been trying the 50s wiring  which has a similar outcome.

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Post by Meadows on Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:20 pm

Never tried a bleed personally but have a couple of guitars where that rolled back muddiness (Sarge) is really noticeable and you can get lost in the mix. Be interesting to try one first hand for sure

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:22 pm

Give it a go Si,  it has to be the easiest useful mod

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Re: Are you Bleeding?

Post by Westbone on Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:49 am

A simple way
http://www.stewmac.com/How-To/Online_Resources/Pickups_and_Electronics/Good_tone_from_0-10_easy_clip-on_mod.html?lac_guid=5eda3085-b941-e511-b169-bc305bee17b9&utm_campaign=ts0182-2b&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter

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Post by Meadows on Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:50 am

Great link thanks, going to order one of these and a couple of clips and give it a go

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TREBLE-BLEED-NOS-SILVER-MICA-0-001uF-150k-1-RESISTOR-CH11012/121568039507?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20141212152715%26meid%3D26976df9671a4b4eb510c3d352e23f2b%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D29%26sd%3D400889977834

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Post by Adey on Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:48 am

I may have a go with that to see what it's like.

Good post!!! Very Happy

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Post by Barry on Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:54 am

That's the same video that got me musing on the subject Damian.
Ever use a bleed yerself?

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Post by Westbone on Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:03 pm

Certainly...Metal Head Handy mod. at low volumes.

Thought that was a coincidence seeing your post...Laughing

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Post by gittarasaurus on Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:53 pm

this is a pretty good explanation and demonstration of treble bleed… vid 

Westone Dimension WE5400 control cavity, with treble bleed capacitor

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:05 pm

That's how I do mine, without the resistor. Works great!

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Post by Meadows on Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:30 pm

What difference does it make without the resistor please guys? for better, for worse or just different fidelity?

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:33 pm

Dunno, only ever done it without.

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Re: Are you Bleeding?

Post by Meadows on Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:44 pm

Meadows wrote:What difference does it make without the resistor please guys?

Got it, just watched that excellent vid, the series option with the resistor sounded good to my ears based on his rig

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