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Re: Westone info site

Post by punkyjam67 on Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:45 am

So, a central PayPal account into which interested parties pay their contributions; which then repays Barry for his costs incurred for the webhosting & domain renewal charges in connection with the 'westoneguitars.net' website?

If so, sounds good to me Smile

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Post by Barry on Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:47 am

Yup.

In the grand scheme of things this is not really big money.
The more folks who contribute the less pain per person, and the bonus is, if we raise more than we immediately need there would be funds for the next renewal cycle 2 years from now.

Boo ya! Laughing

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Post by Catalyst on Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:40 am

Sounds like a plan...just let me know where to send the cash. Cool

And thanks for taking the time to sort this out. Thumb Up

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Post by The Chad on Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:08 am

I agree.  Let us know where to send and you got it. 

Thank you for doing this. 

Oh, and Barry... include $1 per year for yourself as a bonus.  Consider it coffee money.  Heck, in two years you could afford a cup!

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:43 am

In Canadian money,  $1 is the equivalent of 2 sips of coffee!  You're so generous Chad Smile 


Thanks for all your hard work, and your dedication is appreciated guys,  cheers!

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Post by mortarman120gang11c on Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:36 pm

Ok will be waiting on the pay pal info.

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Post by DimensionIV-addict on Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:41 pm

Sgt. Vimes wrote:In Canadian money,  $1 is the equivalent of 2 sips of coffee!  You're so generous Chad Smile ...

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Post by GeoffG on Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:41 pm

Happy to contribute I like the PayPal route.

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Post by corsair on Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:17 am

OK, lads.... I've set up an email account linked to a Paypal account and I'm just doing some checks before we go live...

(that means that I'm getting Barry to check what I've done because I'm a complete clod!!) Laughing

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Post by Barry on Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:40 am

Everything's looking good from here Johnny!
The account should be OK to receive funds whenever you're ready to roll.
Thanks for setting it up. sunny

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Post by corsair on Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:45 pm

Okey, dokey troops...

westoneinfosite at gmail dot com

is the email a/c to pay into vai Paypal!

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Re: Westone info site

Post by gittarasaurus on Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:24 am

thanks for taking care of the business to keep the website going. it is an important resource.
great job gentlemen!

perhaps there could be a Donate link at the top of the page on the info site with the other links (Home, Forums, Guitars, etc), and maybe on the forums pages too.

-to alert visitors there is a need
-and to make it easy to find in the future, not only just readers of this thread

here is an example of how a listener-funded, online radio station does paypal donations for support. DFM 
clik on the Donate button in the middle of the homepage and it opens another page that gives the details of what is needed and what has been donated.

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Post by Westbone on Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:30 am

Good idea Mike.

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Post by Meadows on Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:58 am

+ One, great idea

Have made a contribution, please let me know if I need to send more or if that feels about right.

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Re: Westone info site

Post by Barry on Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:10 am

Thanks for the button suggestion Mike. Unfortunately it is not a straight forward application.

Tax laws have been tightened up considerably and according to PayPal:
Note: This button is intended for fundraising. If you are not raising money for a cause, please choose another option. Nonprofits must verify their status to withdraw donations they receive.
The line which causes potential problems is the last one. Even though we're dealing with relatively small total amount of money, we have no easy way to prove that we're a non-profit organization. That means that PayPal could freeze the money and we'd not be able to access the money raised!

I don't wish to go through the misery of creating and maintaining an Non-Profit Organization staus in addition to the web hosting etc. And, frankly, we're just not a large enough group to justify all the work involved.

So, please, for now, just make contributions via PayPal using the email address above *.
If you're not sure how to use PayPal have a look at this LINK

Thanks folks!

* EDIT: (repeat of the email address for convenience) westoneinfosite at gmail dot com

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:14 pm

Donation made,  thanks again for your time and effort guys.

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Post by corsair on Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:21 pm

Those who've donated, please know that your donation is now sitting there awaiting Barry to uplift what he needs, when he needs it so thank you and big props out to you!!

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Post by DimensionIV-addict on Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:51 pm

Pleasure and honor to be part of.
Cheers guys

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Re: Westone info site

Post by Catalyst on Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:36 am

Donation sent... Cool

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Post by Thunder-Chunder on Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:04 am

Donation sent.

Not sure if this is a good or bad idea as donation amounts are up to the individual, but if like myself willing donators are unsure of what feels an appropriate amount to donate would (once everything has settled down) a

(x) amount of members raised
(x) amount of funds

Tag be useful as a guide

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Post by punkyjam67 on Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:50 am

Donation sent - patron of the arts, me, eh...? Wink Smile

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Re: Westone info site

Post by Barry on Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:37 am

Thunder-Chunder wrote:Donation sent.

Not sure if this is a good or bad idea as donation amounts are up to the individual, but if like myself willing donators are unsure of what feels an appropriate amount to donate would (once everything has settled down) a

(x) amount of members raised
(x) amount of funds

Tag be useful as a guide
It's always been the plan to report on the status, and I'm sure John will do that when appropriate. The anticipated costs are already detailed in this thread. We are not looking for a large amount, either in total or from individuals. Small amounts times many is the key here, we're not looking to cause financial stress for anyone, and no one is getting get rich either.

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:34 am

Got enough for a prestige yet Baz? 
;-)

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Re: Westone info site

Post by corsair on Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:49 pm

Sgt. Vimes wrote:Got enough for a prestige yet Baz? 
;-)

Nope... not yet!! Already scanning eBay, CL and Gumtree in readiness for the time I have got enough though!! lol!

Loving the way Barry is in the headlights while I lurk about in the shadows... this could work well for me!!Giggles

I'm not sure as to how to proceed with acknowlegment of donations; I've already done something small but public with the "Financial supporter" tag and really, I think that is enough. I am certainly not going to openly publish individual amounts but I shall take a screenshot of the account and show that to everyone, with the individual amounts blurred but the total balance visible. 
As Barry said, "small times many" is the key.....

On a personal note... you blokes are the best!!

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Post by gandalf1961 on Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:02 pm

Payment made

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Post by Meadows on Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:06 pm

Out of interest guys...how are we looking so far, I know it's early days but are we on target to cover the next two years fees yet or could you do with a little more (disregarding the prestige bass for the moment)?

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Post by challpa on Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:08 pm

thanks for setting this up guys - donation sent

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Post by corsair on Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:42 pm

Meadows wrote:Out of interest guys...how are we looking so far, I know it's early days but are we on target to cover the next two years fees yet or could you do with a little more (disregarding the prestige bass for the moment)?

I think we're well on the way here, thanks Si, and no; those who've contributed need not dig any deeper at the moment. Once I figure out how to do the necessary with a screenshot, I'll show y'all where we're at.

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Post by Barry on Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:02 am

Sgt. Vimes wrote:Got enough for a prestige yet Baz? 
;-)
Haven't even peeked at the total yet.

Relax...I'll never find one locally. Razz

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Post by Meadows on Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:28 am

corsair wrote:
I think we're well on the way here, thanks Si, and no; those who've contributed need not dig any deeper at the moment. Once I figure out how to do the necessary with a screenshot, I'll show y'all where we're at.

Thanks John, sounds very encouraging Smile

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Re: Westone info site

Post by Tripi on Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:28 am

paiement sent, thx to you all

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Post by kulhom on Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:57 pm

Donation done! hope it helps Wink

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Re: Westone info site

Post by corsair on Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:07 pm

Here we are, troops.. statement from Paypal, and an invoice from our new hosting outfit which Barry has paid from the collective! You blokes need to take a bow...




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Post by punkyjam67 on Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:11 am

Job's a good 'un So Happy

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Re: Westone info site

Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:06 am

Excuse my maths, but is that just the first year paid for?

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Post by punkyjam67 on Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:35 am

Sgt. Vimes wrote:Excuse my maths, but is that just the first year paid for?

Earlier in the thread, Barry posted that the cost of the hosting package was as follows:

1&1.ca Managed WordPress Hosting
BASIC PLAN
       
First 12 months $0.99/month, or,
$11.88 + 13% HST = CAD $13.43 year

...then $6.99/month the following year, or,
$83.88 + 13% HST = CAD $94.78 year

Total for 2 years = CAD $108.21


The PayPal balance of AUS $258 equates to about CAN $255, so by my reckoning, we should already have enough to cover the next three-and-a-half years or so Smile

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:38 am

Magnificent work people!

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Re: Westone info site

Post by Westbone on Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:07 am

Seeing as it's been deposited in an Aussie account.
 If it's sent again to a Canadian account we're paying pay pal fees again. Is that correct?  Fook pay pal.

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Clarification

Post by Barry on Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:49 am

OK simma down now. Let me try to make it clear one more time. Cool


Yes, the contract has been set up and the first year is now paid for @$0.99/month or $11.88/year.
That's the introductory discount rate, which is why I chose this plan. The difference from my estimate, is that they are not charging any taxes (normally 13%), so that's an unexpected little bonus.

Going forward, as predicted, we definitely have enough funding for year two, and now, year three by the look of it @$6.99/month or $83.88/year. (Not sure about taxes on this full amount, but there likely will be).

Beyond that it depends on whether the host company changes it's rates, and of course we're all at the mercy of the world economy and changing  exchange rates, but we're looking very solid for a fourth year as I write this.

And yes, the collection account is in AUD which means there are conversions going in from your donations, and another conversion out as I withdraw in CAD. Fees and conversion losses/gains are going to be inevitable but let's relax here, this is not mega bucks in a Swiss Bank we're talking about. It's only a couple of hundred dollars to be distributed over 3 or 4 years.

Nobody is getting ripped off and John and I are being completely above board with the information. When we started this it was agreed to use PayPal and we were looking for small donations from many members to get through about a year's worth of hosting. But you folks have out done yourselves and gone above and beyond expectations. You're just an amazingly warm and generous group and I am honoured to be a part of such an extraordinary world wide collegiate.

So, we are now able to relax....at least until the next crisis comes along!
Thank you all!

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Post by punkyjam67 on Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:56 am

Crisis averted - let's get back to Metal Head


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Post by Westbone on Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:40 pm

Yep, all good...Smile

Just don't like pay pal exchange rates they're higher than the actual rate and also charge commision on that, rippoff artists.

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Post by Naulen on Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:45 pm

Donatiom made to "westoneinfosite at gmail dot com" hopefully this was the correct email Thinking ? Keep on the good work! Nolan

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Post by Meadows on Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:27 pm

Barry and John, many thanks for all you time and effort getting this administered and executed, great to know the info site will continue to be available for existing and future Westonians to come..Cheers guys Drink Beer

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Re: Westone info site

Post by Barry on Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:16 pm

Thanks Si. Ironically, I've just finished a cold Rickard's Red!

Oh and John? Nice change on the Avatar captioning buddy!  Thumb Up

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Post by The Chad on Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:09 pm

Just donated my share.  

Thanks again, men.  This is a good place that deserves a future.  

Now go get that coffee...   Laughing

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Post by kulhom on Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:09 pm

westoneguitars.net is for life!   I\'m watching you!

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Post by GeoffG on Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:41 pm

Donation sent - better late than never!

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Post by mortarman120gang11c on Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:34 pm

Sorry for the late donation but Thanks for all you do here.

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Post by David_A on Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:10 am

Another late donation sent. Thanks for making sure the site continues.

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Mini Update

Post by Barry on Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:04 am

First of all, thank you for the continuing contributions!
That will more than ensure that there's ample funding for a long time to come! Love Flag

So, to recap where we are currently:

  • The website has been successfully relocated to a Canadian host server from its original home in England
  • The domain name (westoneguitars.net) which was originally registered and hosted in California is currently in the process of being transferred to the same Canadian location

When the dust settles, both the website and the domain name will reside together which will make management of both much easier.

And once again, a big thanks to Neil Smith who was previously donating resources for everything, and has been currently looking after most of the transfer and configuration details for us behind the scenes.

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All Done!

Post by Barry on Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:42 pm

The last piece of the changeover is now complete. cheers

Our domain name, westoneguitars.net, has been transferred to the new host and now resides with the same contract as the web site. Everything under one point of administration.

And Neil has now bowed out of the technical background, at least as an active participant, but he has offered to be available as a consultant should we need his assistance with anything.

He is also a member here, although he's not been very active for quite awhile, but he plans to visit from time to time to talk geetars. We look forward to welcoming him back!

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