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Post by bluenile on Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:21 am

Hi, as a recent convert to westone guitars I was wondering if anyone with the Concord 1 has upgraded their guitars. I've got both an 82 and 84 model and while the look and feel is great  the pickups feel a bit naff/weak on each. Anyone modded these fine little guitars? There doesn't seem to be a great deal of information on them online.

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Post by Barry on Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:10 pm

Hello bluenile and welcome.

Yes, the pups in these little babies are frequently swapped out for the reason you mention.
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Post by bluenile on Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:47 pm

ta - been pouring over these for the last few weeks only a lot of them seem to refer to the Concord II/III

Would any strat neck/bridge pickup fit?

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Post by Meadows on Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:58 pm

As a starting point check out this link..I found it useful with mine

http://forum.westoneguitars.net/privmsg?folder=inbox
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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:18 pm

bluenile wrote:

Would any strat neck/bridge pickup fit?

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Yeah standard strat size pickups.


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Post by bluenile on Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:16 am

Meadows wrote:As a starting point check out this link..I found it useful with mine

http://forum.westoneguitars.net/privmsg?folder=inbox
Looks like the wrong link Sad

Checking out some Ironstones at the moment... look like some good budget pickups
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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:44 am

Ironstone are nice, irongear are better, but check out Oil City Pickups and speak to Ash, he'll go through what you want from a pickup and custom wind it for you, very reasonable prices on extremely nice pickups,  top guy too!
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Post by Westbone on Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:45 am

Oil city pups are good, just around the corner from me. Helpful fellow indeed but your phone bill might  increase dramatically...Laughing.. likes a good chat.
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Post by BC Witch on Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:42 am

I have a Concord I and I like the trashy sound of the pickups. Reminds me of 'Dirty Mind' era Prince. Initially I had tuning issues with the guitar going sharp when I bent the strings but this was completely solved by switching the string trees for the roller type. The Concord I is a great guitar.
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Post by BC Witch on Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:54 am

p.s. another thing is that the pickup height makes a massive difference to the sound of the Concord I. There's a few good videos on Youtube about single coil height adjustment. Essentially you need to set the pickups much lower than you would think so that the strings can vibrate properly. When I got the guitar I was pushing the pickups higher and higher trying to get more volume out of them but there was no sustain and the sound was all weedy so then I went the other way until the pickups were pretty much flush with the scratch plate and it's like a different guitar. Much more sustain and fuller sounding, particularly the neck pickup.
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Post by bluenile on Sat May 07, 2016 6:14 am

BC Witch wrote:p.s. another thing is that the pickup height makes a massive difference to the sound of the Concord I. There's a few good videos on Youtube about single coil height adjustment. Essentially you need to set the pickups much lower than you would think so that the strings can vibrate properly. When I got the guitar I was pushing the pickups higher and higher trying to get more volume out of them but there was no sustain and the sound was all weedy so then I went the other way until the pickups were pretty much flush with the scratch plate and it's like a different guitar. Much more sustain and fuller sounding, particularly the neck pickup.
I gave this a try and it's worked a treat! Glad I didn't rush into spending the £££ on pickups now. Love the look of your Concord, did you respray it yourself?

Appreciate all the help anyway guys
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Post by BC Witch on Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:09 am

bluenile wrote:
BC Witch wrote:p.s. another thing is that the pickup height makes a massive difference to the sound of the Concord I. There's a few good videos on Youtube about single coil height adjustment. Essentially you need to set the pickups much lower than you would think so that the strings can vibrate properly. When I got the guitar I was pushing the pickups higher and higher trying to get more volume out of them but there was no sustain and the sound was all weedy so then I went the other way until the pickups were pretty much flush with the scratch plate and it's like a different guitar. Much more sustain and fuller sounding, particularly the neck pickup.
I gave this a try and it's worked a treat! Glad I didn't rush into spending the £££ on pickups now. Love the look of your Concord, did you respray it yourself?

Appreciate all the help anyway guys
Hey glad it was of use!

Re my Concord- it's a standard red finish and I just covered the pick guard in metallic red paper from a craft store and painted around it with a wide metallic gold pen. I also did a similar thing on part of the headstock.
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Post by Barry on Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:32 am

bluenile wrote:
Meadows wrote:As a starting point check out this link..I found it useful with mine

http://forum.westoneguitars.net/privmsg?folder=inbox
Looks like the wrong link Sad
Yes it is.
Si, you've quoted a link to the inbox!

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Post by Barry on Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:39 am

BC Witch wrote:p.s. another thing is that the pickup height makes a massive difference to the sound of the Concord I...you need to set the pickups much lower than you would think so that the strings can vibrate properly...until the pickups were pretty much flush with the scratch plate and it's like a different guitar. Much more sustain and fuller sounding, particularly the neck pickup.
Absolutely right, good advice. Thumb Up
Single coils are a different animal from humbuckers and they do behave differently.

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Post by bluenile on Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:30 am

Hi again guys, long time since I posted, still rocking my Concord I, using it mostly for gain on the bridge pup as I use a squier classic vibe strat for clean tones. If I didn't want to keep it stock the bridge p up would be straight in the classic vibe as that's pretty nasty as per typical strat  Very Happy Keep looking out for a HSS Concord III but it seems they are extremely rare these days Crying or Very sad
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