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Post by Barry on Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:44 pm

Ya know, I should just stop looking at the guitar ads altogether.
Now that I've moved to sunny St. Catharines, I just assumed most interesting offers would be light years away from me. And for the most part that has been true.

However...I keep stumbling over Granada branded instruments down here. I'm still kicking myself for passing up the chance to pick up an absolutely beautiful acoustic just after the new year. Going dirt cheap, but I was dirt broke.

Now I find this interesting carcass of a Granada which appears to be a late 60's or early 70's Aria 1202 or thereabouts. (Granada was a re-branded Mats series sold in Canada mostly to music schools) LINK CAD$60!

It's a pity it's missing her pickups, because they were really nice sounding IIRC. Still, a pretty straight forward restoration, EXCEPT for that bloody great hole where the tone pot was!

I contacted the owner and he kindly added a couple of more pix. That hole looks like it was for a strat style input jack?! And we have a chip on the head stock.

I'm negotiating. Dunno if I want to get into this or not. IF I was to pick this up what suggestions can I get from the learned folk here as to what to do with that hole? I'm thinking about a plate of some sort. Bloody shame, right on the burst too.

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Re: Possible Aria 1202(?) Resto

Post by Barry on Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:51 am

Seller's willing to drop the price to CAD$50, but I still cannot figure out a way to deal with those holes.

It's easy to make it all functional, but at a cost of severely impacting the aesthetics. If there was no F-hole in the middle of it all, or the damage was on the bottom 2 holes, I'd have more of a fighting chance, but this is the worst possible condition.

I thought of possibly using a varitone style mounting plate under each control knob. Not too pretty either, and I dunno if that would even cover the gap.
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Post by Westbone on Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:54 am

It's hurts when folks butcher instruments....Evil or Very Mad

How about some form/design of plate covering all the holes.

Or something like a Ibanez model no. 2358

Forgot my Hofner has a similar set up

Could always put a couple of bungs/grommets in the 2 good holes. Just an idea.

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Re: Possible Aria 1202(?) Resto

Post by Barry on Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:44 pm

Not a bad idea. It's getting around the bottom of the F-hole that might tax the designer in me. T'would be a very curvy thing. Almost every other way I line up a plate of some kind a part of the F-hole gets violated and it just looks dumb.

But I was thinking...(always dangerous)...I wonder if using Ovation style epaulets might work? LINK They could be cut to create individual mounting pads under the knobs? Too "flashy?

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Post by Westbone on Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:48 pm

Could always cut the 'F' shape out of any plate.

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Post by Westbone on Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:57 pm

How about putting a master volume where the pickup 3 way sits.
2 individual volumes in the good holes and tones on a plate with slider switches for the pickup selection.

Just bouncing ideas about.

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Re: Possible Aria 1202(?) Resto

Post by Barry on Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:49 pm

Thanks for the ideas Damian. Just how miserable is it to work with pick guard material anyway?

Keep in mind that I have no proper facilities to do any fancy-schmancy curve/scroll work. It would all be done with hand tools and sand paper. tongue  And I'm assuming I'd be best off with a 2-ply or 3-ply material to mount the pots.

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Post by Westbone on Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:51 pm

Barry wrote:Thanks for the ideas Damian. Just how miserable is it to work with pick guard material anyway?

Keep in mind that I have no proper facilities to do any fancy-schmancy curve/scroll work. It would all be done with hand tools and sand paper. tongue  And I'm assuming I'd be best off with a 2-ply or 3-ply material to mount the pots.
It's no problem, easy to work with. Just cover the side with the protective plastic on with masking tape. Makes it easy to see your design. A jig saw with a fine hack saw blade works well, just leave a wee bit to finish file.A palm sander is handy for the edge.
Suggest you use plain black material. No white uneven edges. Unless your going to rout the bevel around the edge. You'll need a router table and a template, twice the work!
Plain black is forgiving....Wink

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Re: Possible Aria 1202(?) Resto

Post by Barry on Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:07 pm

I have decided to take John's original advice to me over at the Mats forum and "walk away" from this one. I did figure out what I think would be a nice solution but in truth, I have too many things to do with the "new" house this summer and I only have so much time and energy.

Many thanks for the suggestions and interest.

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Re: Possible Aria 1202(?) Resto

Post by corsair on Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:28 pm

As much as this one was burning a hole in the consciousness, I reckon that it's one for the likes of Damians' skill level, certainly not mine, eh!

It certainly does make you gag to see a nice instrument so appallingly mistreated....

There'll be others, Barry... remember, I've said "This'll be the last one" about 3 times now!!

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Re: Possible Aria 1202(?) Resto

Post by Westbone on Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:32 am

You don't need much skill to cut a bit of plastic....

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Post by corsair on Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:35 am

Westbone wrote:You don't need much skill to cut a bit of plastic....

Granted, but that's an ugly fix.

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Re: Possible Aria 1202(?) Resto

Post by Westbone on Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:01 am

Not if done tastefully, anyway it's not exactly a world stopping instrument is it.

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Re: Possible Aria 1202(?) Resto

Post by Barry on Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:45 am

I was fiddling about electronically with the image and I think if you bisect the F-Hole horizontally, then flip the bottom half and rotate it slightly, you could create a relatively pleasant design which would mirror the curves in the F-Hole. Kind of a yin-yang thing, or inverted commas...
...in the end though it's still fugly plastic. Wine Drinker

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Post by Westbone on Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:16 pm

In the end it's only C$50. approx. £25. Does it really matter.....Thinking

Is that a bolt on neck?

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Re: Possible Aria 1202(?) Resto

Post by Barry on Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:51 pm

Yeah, cheap as chips, but my days of "making do" are over (I hope) I'm not that desperate.
I didn't ask, but from what I recall I believe she's a bolt on Damian.

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