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Post by madmarcus1960 on Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:51 am

Anyone resurface or find proper replacements for these. They seem to be the weak link in this trem system. I think I read on this site that the Floyd replacements are not plug-n-play for this application. I have three guitars with bendmaster Deluxes and one stays in tune going flat only, I use an ESP trem damper with adjustable spring tension, works great. The other two are unusable. The bridge part looks ok but the posts are galled up even after removing the oxidation.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Post by colt933 on Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:24 am

I have found that you can get by with posts from an import licensed Floyd.

I think the slots where the knife edges ride are not exactly the same dimension, but the threads on the Floyd posts do screw right in the BD inserts (at least they did for me - again - cheap imported licensed Floyd.)

You intonation may not be exactly perfect on one or two strings with this set-up, but it will be pretty close and usable for everything but the most demanding recording application.

If you block the tremolo in the back so it is not floating (down only) then tuning shouldn't be a problem with your galled posts. It's only for floaters that you REALLY need the knife edge joint to be perfect.

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Post by Frenchy on Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:05 am

Hi Mad,

Do you have pictures of the posts that you are looking for? and measurements... I might be able to help you...

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Post by madmarcus1960 on Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:01 pm

I can post a picture later. The trem posts go to the Bendmaster Deluxe
and I believe the regular Bendmaster. They have M6 threads and a
typical Floyd Rose hourglass seat, but I have heard they are a larger
diameter at the contact point, thus effecting intonation if Floyd
version is used.
I quasi polished the ones on my guitar by using
Scotch-Brite and a hand drill. I spun them until most of the chrome
peeling disappeared. The trem contact points are coated in graphite
liquid and by using a Kahler trem stabilizer the unit is stable diving.
i don't own a trem that goes sharp and stays in tune.

Thanks, if you have access to parts let me know, I'm interested.

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Post by corsair on Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:35 pm

Scroll down to the bottom of the post...

http://forum.westoneguitars.net/wanted-f4/wtb-bendmaster-deluxe-complete-and-functional-t570.htm

...are these the beasts in question?

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Post by madmarcus1960 on Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:48 pm

Yes sir, those are the ones.

I also was careful to set the height with regard to the spots on the post where the chrome was uneven. The scotch-brite did a good job of cleaning most of the galling off without taking off too much meat.
Also I'm i correct the the knife edges are similar to most where one is a knife edge and the other more rounded. I read this was to keep the bridge from floating up and down against the posts.

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Post by corsair on Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:59 pm

Mine aren't chromed but black so maybe you should strip all the chrome off and start from there? My impression is that the main bridge plate will self centre on the optimum spot on the posts when all the different tensions come on; all of mine happily sit in the thinnest part of the post, regardless of what maneuvres they're put through.
There's only one bevelled edge on a Bendmaster, eh, and that's the one on the bridge plate which sits in the rounded post...

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Post by Frenchy on Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:36 pm

Thank's for the link Corsair...

Mad, I went thru my entire lot of post and none fit... The stock that I have is mainly for Aria....I bought stock from retired Aria repair prerson that closed shop in 86....

Sorry, cant help you...

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Post by corsair on Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:44 am

Yeah; my understanding is that the Bendmasters were peculiar to Westone; so that's not all that encouraging, really, is it?!! Laughing

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Re: trem posts

Post by madmarcus1960 on Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:39 am

I have friend that is a master machinist/modeller I can ask him how
much to make a bunch of them if there is enough interest. Obviously it
wouldn't be for free, but I could get a price for 10-20 pair. Right now
the beast is staying in reasonable tune when diving. I haven't found a
guitar that stays in tune pitching up.

Thanks for the efforts!

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Post by colt933 on Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:34 am

madmarcus1960 wrote:I haven't found a
guitar that stays in tune pitching up.

Have you seen the Tremsetter from Hipshot? It works.

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Post by madmarcus1960 on Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:46 am

Check out this website, http://joe.emenaker.com/TremStabilizers/ I bought the ESP version and a Kahler version based on the same pre-loading of the block design. Those can be had from wammiworld.com a Kahler distributor and a really nice guy to work with.

The ESP, Ibanez version if you can find one, and the the Backbox(available from Rockinger-Germany online-shipping is expensive.) are much easier to use. I'm not interested in pull-ups only dives. These all work great for this. If I spent time adjusting the spring tension I could probably get it stable both ways, I just don't need it. Tremsetter although it seems to work once set up is much more of a pain in the butt to install. These others are 1/2 tops once you do the first one.

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