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Post by Barry on Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:27 pm

corsair wrote:...The Eagles.. well, they're very skilled players, no question, but they're also very clinical and antiseptic... unless you're talking about the earlier stuff that has Bernie Leadon doing the writing: that stuff rocks!...
I have great respect for their singing harmonies, but the current band sucks without Don Felder, Joe Walsh's slide work notwithstanding. Steuart Smith is very good but as you say, "clinical" in his execution.

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Post by Barry on Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:55 pm

anaerobe wrote:Budgie was a mighty good band, forgot about those guys...
Geez this thread is stirring up old memories! The mention of Budgie triggered a band that I just loved back in the 70's called Hummingbird.
I don't think they ever went mainstream pop but there was a fanatical following including the likes of yours truly and my band buddy, Glenn. I only have their stuff on vinyl and my turntable system hasn't been hooked up in a long while, but it's time to bring these guys back to life!

From Wikipedia (the source of all truth and light):
Hummingbird were a British rock band, formed in 1974 by Bobby Tench of The Jeff Beck Group and Streetwalkers fame. Hummingbird recorded three successful albums, released by A&M using Ian "Sammy" Samwell as their record producer.

The original line up included members of the second Jeff Beck Group, vocalist and guitarist Bobby Tench, keyboardist Max Middleton, bassist Clive Chaman, drummer Conrad Isidore and second guitarist Bernie Holland. At the start of sessions for their first album they were joined by Jeff Beck for a brief period but he did not contribute to the album and left to work on his own project.

After the first album Bernie Holland was replaced by guitarist Robert Awhai and drummer Bernard "Pretty" Purdie replaced Isidore on the next two albums,vocalists Madeline Bell and Liza Strike were brought in to compliment the band. They found success mainly in the USA, also in Europe and Japan.

Just an outstanding band with incredible grooves. Still holds up.

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Post by anaerobe on Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:52 pm

Good gravy, I can't read fast enough to keep up - you guys must be drinking gallons of coffee, or Guiness, or summat....

John (or Barry, Dan, Steve, Frenchy, Grogg etc etc), if you have a good source for the tabs for "Classical Gas", I would be in your debt - I really love that tune.

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Post by Barry on Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:49 pm

Yikes! Another guy I really loved, Mason Williams!

He was such a talented guy, way beyond Classical Gas. I remember watching him on the Smothers Brothers show, and I used to "cover" his funny and extremely clever The Last Great Waltz when I was a teacher(!) The kids loved it! (So do I. I still play it once and awhile...on acoustic, thank you very much!)

(I think you can find yer tabs on that Internet thingy)

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Post by anaerobe on Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:38 pm

Ah... let me clarify a bit. The quality of tabs varies from pretty good to absolute crap that's often just plain wrong. So, if someone has scanned sheet music (best) or a good "tried and true" tabs version of Classical Gas, I would appreciate the upload.
Cool

And what the hay, here's classic Mason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mguzKze1sYo

...and the hyperactive version, Tommy Emmanuel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX0eTp7SoNU&feature=related

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Post by corsair on Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:36 am

I can do you the one I worked out all those years ago; I've performed it for 25 years and no-ones ever pointed out any glaring problems with it!! It may be missing a few grace notes and the like but it's pretty bloody good!!

Mason also wrote "Cinderella Rockefella" for Avi and Esther Ofarhim (sp) which was a (pretty awful) hit in the 60's but is full of exotic chord sequences, as you'd expect from Williams!! I've got that worked out too!!

Have a listen to this and see what you reckon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3pBnw0O-kI

.. a very long time ago I started working this out and just recently finished tabbing it; I've got the full tune as an .mp3 if anyone's interested...

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Post by anaerobe on Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:07 pm

Corsair, you are the dogs plums. Would like your version, old horse. THANKS!!

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Post by norfolkngood on Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:16 pm

One thing leads to another on this thread. Mention of the Eagles sent me scurrying to youtube for a reminder; yep, some of their stuff was "antiseptic" but fantastic songwriters.

And the Eagles linked to Jackson Browne... I'd almost forgotten that at 18 I wore out the vinyl of "Late for the Sky." Then bought a car and wore out the cassette too. Awsome song. 30+ years later and I still can't work out what the lyric is about but who cares. "Running on Empty" still sounds good. Not sure about Mr Browne's efforts to capture his lost youth though, looks like his plastic surgeon had a sense of humour What a Face

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Post by corsair on Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:18 pm

norfolkngood wrote:Mention of the Eagles sent me scurrying to youtube for a reminder; yep, some of their stuff was "antiseptic" but fantastic songwriters.

My goodness; I feel SO old - I go to iTunes and have a listen to whatever it is that someone has mentioned!! Funny, though - with one exception I have something by everyone mentioned so far; the exception being the White Stripes - just don't like 'em.

The Eagles are a strange bird; I really like the music they did with Bernie Leadon as front man; he had a bluegrass sensibility that I dig! When Walsh and Schmit came on board, they seemed to be , well, going through the motions for the most part with a "Look at me, look at me!!" sort-of vibe happening?! All very late-70's So-Cal ennui...

That said, "the Last resort" is very high on my repeat list, along with "Journey of the sorceror"!!

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Post by anaerobe on Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:59 pm

Hmm.... we're in a lull...maybe the Eagles did it to us.

Anyway....

This goes back to when the only TV on Saturday night was Hockey night in Canada and Don Messer's Jubilee. Don played a mean reel, back in the day - sorry this is guitar free stuff, but please check out the crazy tap-dancin' dude:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNCyddtqZEU&feature=player_embedded#t=12

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Post by DuoFuzz on Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:54 pm

I found this kid on YouTube a while ago, it's a bit random but it is guitar related and I'm sure some of you must have heard of him. His name is Zack Kim and while he may not be to every one's taste, his playing technique and ability blows me away.

Zack Kim - The Simpsons theme tune & Every Breath You Take

How his mind can work out all the mental calculations is beyond me? My feeble brain cells would have evaporated in a small mushroom cloud three seconds after trying to learn it!
And as for using a looping pedal, There is many a time I've been near a mental breakdown after spending way to long laying down a cool riff and then wrecking it as I try - and fail - to record a harmony over the top of it. Better still, hitting the wrong button and wiping everything off! Aaaagggghhhh *BOOM*

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Post by grogg on Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:50 pm

Brings a whole new dimension to "playing with yourself".

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Post by grogg on Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:53 pm

Saw Jeff Beck last night, f. me, awesome awesome awesome. Was a one off gig without his usual band, was with the Imelda May band, what a voice shes got, the rest of the guys were fab. Played all sorts of stuff inc covers of Shadows, Elvis .... Finished the night with his spine tingling rendition of "Over the Rainbow".

Never been to the Millenium Dome before but can thoroughly recommend the Indigo2 venue, the sound was superb from my position, so often horrible in large venues not designed for music.

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Post by corsair on Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:11 pm

I hate you!

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Post by anaerobe on Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:41 pm

Hey Grogg - well done. You get the lucky sod of the week award!!

Was this it - the first song is Apache - way cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jgG8U9En6g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg4O0QqvBGI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCNKMGLrNI4&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIwDfXMkPog&feature=related

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Post by corsair on Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:59 pm

Just how old is that man anyway?! Just ..WOW!! And he looks like he's enjoying himself, too which most these days don't - what a ripper show!! I'm well envious...

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Post by grogg on Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:50 pm

Anearlobe - Yes thats the one, sorry for the delay, been on the road. Hes got to be well into his sixties.
The Mrs hates me as well cos I went on my own - was working in the London area, just by chance of course.

The only problem for me was that you could only buy a ticket with an Amex card, presumably JB got a kickback for that. I bought mine on the grey market and with fees paid 4 times the face value, worth every penny tho.

Apart from his inventiveness and the depth of tonal variation he gets what I love about JB is the clarity of every note. If you listen to him playing along with others like Clapton the difference is quite stark.

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Post by hendrik on Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:31 pm

Fellas,

it's incredible, what you all found and posted. Kept my busy for a while. Thanx for that.
Widened my horizon for good music, but also proofed,
there are a few things which should be better forgotten and kept under the carpet.
Mostly stuff from the mid 70's and early 80's.
But everyone has a different taste...

H.

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Post by anaerobe on Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:23 pm

After stepping back from this for a while, I have realized that I had neglected to add a few favourites:

Steve Howe's "Mood for a Day" is an amazing song, one of the best memories of my youth as I struggled to play it (Howe's facial expressions are pretty intense in this vid):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiA1XBXAE6U&feature=related

Rockier stuff is Steppenwolf's "Magic Carpet ride":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwDa5dMmfZ4

Oops, try this one. Michael Monarch plays some great backing chords. Dig the bassist's clothing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPxFu7taftE&feature=related

Ted Nugent was a fair (a bit repetitive) soloist and a decent writer - and totally politically incorrect, of course, as always:
Very Happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYOV8uu17t0

Then there's John Petrucci - how the hell could we miss him and or Dreamtheatre :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMYeXkYcgs

and actually a song with him in it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8pUqln36po


Too sleepy to add vids for the others that I wanted to elaborate on, including:

Jerry Garcia

Rory Gallagher (mentioned I know)

Dave Navarro

Alan Holdsworth

Andy Summers

and Dick Dale beats the snot out of his strat (Misirlou). One should always take the time needed to finish up with a good Strat beating! :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmmbF1Zyvk

Laughing


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Post by anaerobe on Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:34 pm

Damn... I was headed for bed, but forgot to add Paco de Lucia. He is solid as he can be in this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdE0-aiuZuM&feature=related

and this, non-shabby display:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYkz30RL_GU&feature=related

and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0iEVh4qBmI&feature=related


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Post by corsair on Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:29 am

Agree with most but I've always found Petrucci a bit of a yawn - one of the "How many 64th notes can I whack in here?!" types; there's no denying the man is skilful but... meh! And Nugent is pretty much a self-parody nowadays, but god, his live shows are the best - loud, non-PC and a head-bangers' delight!
Have you got Paco, John McLaughlin and Al Di Meolas' "Friday night in San Francisco"? It has never failed to uplift my spirits, eh....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ypeZ6R-t0

My personal hero is a NZer - James Wilkinson - and this is the only thing of his I've found on YT....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQV2SfpBYHY

...I urge you to watch how he does this!!

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Post by DuoFuzz on Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:21 am

Anaerobe wrote
Then there's John Petrucci - how the hell could we miss him and or Dreamtheatre :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMYeXkYcgs
That's the funniest video I've seen in a long time, "when I flick this switch I go into kill zone mode.....when I shred people die, instantly....it's pretty amazing to see" . Hats off to the guy that overdubbed this!

I love the classical stuff, I try to practice on my nylon strung on a regular basis. I'm never going to be as good as Paco but it's great for sharpening up your fingerstyle technique and good for blowing out the cobwebs if your stuck in one of them playing ruts.

And as for Ted Nugent, I've been getting back into his earlier stuff. I know he's a bit of a gun totting nutcase and is seen as a joke to many people but he has some great and surprisingly heavy riffs, and IMHO he's not bad at soloing either. I'll not bother putting up another Nugent song but I did find this fine public safety announcement starring Uncle Ted.

If there are any keyboard players out there of a sensitive disposition, please look away now, you have been warned!

Ted Nugent: Making The World Safe For Guitarists.

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Post by corsair on Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:46 pm

DuoFuzz wrote: I know he's a bit of a gun totting nutcase and is seen as a joke to many people

...yeah; dickheads like him do nothing for the responsible and everyday hunters amongst us, eh! He comes across as believing his own publicity a bit much... that said, "Cat scratch fever" is a good 'un!!

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Post by anaerobe on Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:42 am

That Kiwi fellow Wilkinson is gooooooooood. I wondered why in that vid they simply didn't just leave the camera on the guy, skip all the corny train stuff.

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Post by grogg on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:18 pm

Ditto, who needs a wammy.

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Post by grogg on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:34 pm

Corsair,
Who was the bass player Al Di Meola used to play with who seemed to be just as fast?
Heres an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atz9vzTAUh0
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