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Post by DuoFuzz on Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:20 am

Knopfler is an excellent choice, I completely agree with with you.

I love Dire Straits first - self titled - album really laid back chill out record. He's from my neck of the woods so the songs have local subjects in them I actually recognise.

This album also has Sultans Of Swing on it, I still have to stop myself playing air guitar when ever I hear it!(come on! you've all done it along to your favorite track at some time )

He is one of many guitarist's that use tone, feel and soul more than speed and fretboard gymnastics, something I still haven't learned to do after 23 years 'practice'.

This train of thought reminded me of a few more soulful players that seem to make every note count:

1, Hank Marvin - The Shadows - Man Of Mystery
2, Billy Gibbons - ZZ Top - La Grange
3, Roy Buchanan - Sweet Dreams + The Messiah Will Come Again wonder if Gary Moore Ever listened to Roy?

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Post by grogg on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:29 pm

Hey guys, been away for a few days with work, just wanted to say what a great thread this is. Keep it coming eh? just listened to the first Shadows stuff I thought was ok.

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Post by norfolkngood on Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:43 pm

Taking me ages to get to the end of this thread as I keep checking out the links; loads of good stuff, keep on posting!

Just treated myself to the Lynyrd Skynyrd "Vicious Cycle" DVD. I'd like to add the LS guitarists to the list but there's been many changes over the years. Gary Rossington has been there from the start, Freebird is still one of the best tunes ever recorded IMO.

When we've done this to death (although it looks like it's going to run for a while yet) how about "best guitar solo ever" as the next big thing?

PS, just noticed, I'm now a "senior member." Great, can you put the cheque in the post please Polly Twisted Evil

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Post by corsair on Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:02 pm

Yeah; for people of my generation - and I suspect a few more generations - Hank B. and the Shads were 'THE MEN', although it was very, very uncool to say so!! However, I never, ever told anyone back then that my favourite instrumental was Santo & Johnny's "Sleepwalk" and to this day I love playing it - I eventually acquired a lap steel to play this and One of these days!!
I was moved to check out a bit more of the lap and pedal steel and 'discovered' Jimmy Bryant and Speedy West; Stratosphere Boogie is just sublime; and Jerry garcia was one of the best pedal steel players I've ever heard...

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Post by anaerobe on Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:21 am

Hey Dan and John, thanks for those comments - I forgot about the Shadows <shakes head in disgust>...these guys also contributed to Hendrix' tricks of playing behind his back, with his teeth, etc..

More Shadows (god, they're good!) -

Walk don't run (1977 version):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNZjVoi7dsw&NR=1

Apache (5 stars from me):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY-rPDwzM9M&feature=related

FBI (pretty good, whot th'?? choreography!!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hga1GalqYo4&feature=related

Atlantis (star trek-style backing vocals):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VycZVyApqew&feature=related

Peace pipe (MIGHTY delay/echo effects):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1ctz2jT8l8&NR=1

Sleepwalk (Corsair, I think I spotted you running for cover on one of the beach pics):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS38_gJh3hE

Moonlight shadow (quality not too great, but this is MIGHTY as well - gosh this sounds like the grandaddy of all Dire Straits songs):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv7SgYNA_ec&feature=related


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Wipeout by the Safaris (first song I learned with my new Yam electric circa 1973 - good wipeouts in this vid):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH5WGWX4MPg&feature=related

Original Ventures' version of Walk don't Run:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ11y7pYl-8&feature=related

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Question of the day - For a Few Dollars More, and (IIRC) The Good, the Bad and the Ugly themes were written by Ennio Morricone, but who played the guitar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLXQltR7vUQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYV-JSjpyU&feature=related

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Post by corsair on Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:51 pm

OMG; I've covered all of those over the years, plus one or two others like Shadoogie, Wonderful land and Cavatina - what memories; being 17 with a crappy old guitar, an old valve radio modified by Dad to serve as an amp and similarly equipped mates.... you needed a drummer who could actually drum to do Wipe out, ...oh boy... was I ever that young?!

I prefer Santo and Johnny's Sleepwalk, though...

Nope, don't know who Ennio Morricones' guitar player was; shouldn't be too hard to find out?

Now, if we're delving into those sorta vaults, how about Friday on my mind (Easybeats), Five o'clock world (Vogues), and early Hollies; good guitar pieces all!!


Ahh; the memories.....

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Post by anaerobe on Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:27 pm

Yep... gotta try and find some of those.

Here's another one - Roy Buchanan. This vid (just below) is great, as the sound is very good quality. He does "Hey Joe" in epic fashion; he can rip it - and check out his tuning!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0pUl5f8wwA

Here's some innovation for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkbM1M1WN0w&feature=related

and another of old Roy... pretty nice iteration of Down by the River:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLhdS-8-YS8&feature=fvw

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Post by grogg on Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:47 pm

Has anyone mentioned Joe Satriani? Awesome guitar player. Heres a couple of sounds:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amT_qZtGn7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOsgv_X_cV8

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Post by grogg on Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:15 pm

Anaerobe, Actually had a go at listening to all those Shadows links you put up, for a short while it was good then I thought I dont like this.
Corsair - how old are you really?

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Post by corsair on Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:38 pm

grogg wrote:Corsair - how old are you really?
Cheeky sod! Younger than Barry. mate... younger than Barry!! I'm only 50, but 50 in southern NZ is sorta like 70 anywhere else!! In the 60's music filtered down there very slowly indeed and the people who paid the bills, ie the promoters, liked to hear stuff that was gonna get the punters drinking loadsa piss, so you played what he wanted, and that sort of attitude was current right through into the mid 80s!!

Besides, brother - good music is good music!

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Post by corsair on Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:43 pm

grogg wrote:Has anyone mentioned Joe Satriani? Awesome guitar player.

Yes he is; so is Vai... and Malmsteen... and Holdsworth... and any number of other uber-technical players but they all have that "Look at me! Look at me!!" thing happening which I find a bit of a turn-off and another greater sin is not letting a song breath, which you can't do when you're showcasing your chops at a million miles an hour!

Another thing I'll mention in passing is that, by and large, people go to a gig to dance and have a good time - not to listen to a player onstage basically having a w*nk - AC/DC's crowds are a lot bigger than Vai's.... see what I'm getting at there?!

That said, one of my favourite instrumental pieces to play on guitar is Always with me, always with you, because the chords used are simply beautiful....


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Post by DuoFuzz on Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:15 pm

Corsair, you mentioned you played the 60's surf instrumental stuff when you were a young'un. When I first started learning electric guitar in the early 90's, instead of modern music I was listening to my dads old vinyl collection.

My dad made sure I heard the blues, country, rock & roll and old rock stuff he had got when he was growing up. I got to hear both Santo & Johnny and Jimmy Bryant & Speedy West's music as part of my education, amazing players! I also got to hear that surf stuff which hooked me at the time, these were some of my favorites.

I suppose these are less to do with a particular player and more about the tune:

1, The Dakotas - THE CRUEL SEA - Still can't nail this one!
2, The Chantays - PIPELINE - Gotta have tube driven spring reverb turned up to 11 to play this!
3, The Ventures - LET'S GO - Any idea what guitar the guy in the hat is playing? It's fitted with a Bigsby palm bender!
4, Santo & Johnny - SLEEPWALK - Corsair mentioned it and it has to go on here, pure class.

Another great player I don't think has been mentioned is the insanely talented Albert Lee, check these out:

1, COUNTRY BOY
2, LUXURY LINER
2, SWEET LITTLE LISA

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Post by corsair on Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:21 am

yep; all true - really good stuff, eh! I had 2 older siblings and I used to listen to their records; back then they would be off down to the record shop on a Friday to get the latest 45 and as a result we had all sorts floating around!

The one no-ones mentioned - and who stands heads and shoulders above most - is Ry Cooder, for his technique, style, phrasings, songwriting... just everything; the man is a bona fide genius! I heard "Every woman I know is crazy 'bout an automobile" and the proverbial lightbulb went off and I realised that I could do any damn thing I wanted on the guitar as long as what I did fitted the song and didn't overpower it!

Oh, back to the early 60's; I reckon Joe Brown and the Bruvvers have been shabbily treated by the record buying public - really really good songs well played.... have a listen to "A picture of you"...

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Post by grogg on Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:44 am

corsair wrote: and another greater sin is not letting a song breath, which you can't do when you're showcasing your chops at a million miles an hour!

Another thing I'll mention in passing is that, by and large, people go to a gig to dance and have a good time - not to listen to a player onstage basically having a w*nk - AC/DC's crowds are a lot bigger than Vai's.... see what I'm getting at there?!

Totally agree with you, its great in short doses but not for a whole night.

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Post by anaerobe on Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:20 pm

Grogg and Corsair, do you mean w@nking like this? After a while, its a yawner for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5BrE1Pi5cU


Also Grogg, did you have a look at some of Roy Buchanan's stuff, at points it feels/sounds like Jeff Beck.

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Post by anaerobe on Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:46 pm

This one is just too weird and wonderful not to include... FZ's live version of Stairway to Heaven. Notables - i) the dog barks and ii) the fact that the ENTIRE horn section plays the guitar solo note for bleeding note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p3Ue3ncH3g&feature=related

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Post by corsair on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:28 pm

anaerobe wrote:Grogg and Corsair, do you mean w@nking like this? After a while, its a yawner for me.

Yep; exactly that. EVH pretty much has a mortgage on that sort of stuff because he lets the song breathe, he doesn't let his quite prodigious talent get in the way of the song, and he doesn't take himself too seriously!!

Roy B. has what it takes, no question; I just never liked his tone very much?!

Frank's great; everything done tongue in cheek with massive talent: Shut up and play yer guitar is still on high rotate in my house! And if you like like odd versions of STH, Dread Zeppelin and Rolf Harris both covered it....

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Post by grogg on Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:43 pm

anaerobe wrote:Also Grogg, did you have a look at some of Roy Buchanan's stuff, at points it feels/sounds like Jeff Beck.

Buchanan was great, I think his tone is fine too.
Corsair you beat me to it on the Stairway versions, was thinking of starting a new thread just for that but then thought I couldnt bear to listen to it again and again.
Can remember how proud I was when I could first play the song, was good at the time cos it hadnt been around that long, now tho.. theres only one Rolf Harris - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKtkcqqvxwo more original version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzdcT60kGMs

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Post by grogg on Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:00 pm

Anyway didnt want to mention these guys for purely selfish reasons, too late now heard their stuff in the backing for some tv stuff. Saw them 3 years ago in Bristol, ticket was a tenner then, bet it would be a lot more now. Anyway heres a bit of Rodrigo y Gabriela:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5VFWA2YKdo&feature=fvst

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Post by grogg on Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:02 pm

PS they do a great version of Orion

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Post by DuoFuzz on Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:41 pm

Did you mean THIS Grogg? Awesome isn't it, sadly no video so you cant see Gabriela's strumming style, it's jaw dropping!

Then there is their version of STAIRWAY and their own tracks TAMACUN and DIABLO ROJO.

Unbelievable technique!

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Post by anaerobe on Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:19 pm

Dan,

Albert Lee is a monster... I must say I didn't know much about him..

Check this one out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cek5qZ76FZs&feature=related

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Post by DuoFuzz on Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:33 pm

Sickening the amount of talent Albert Lee has, isn't it.

Makes you want to be a drummer instead!

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Post by anaerobe on Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:38 pm

Yeh, I spent an hour zooming aroung utube watching Lee play.

Rolf Harris plays a mean wobble board.

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Post by DuoFuzz on Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:48 pm

There is another guy I know of who is similar to Albert Lee and I thought he might interest you? The guy was called Danny Gatton and he played in a country/rockabilly/jazz kinda style. Some of his tricks just can't be explained!

Check out THIS, and THIS, and THIS, and THAT. (Please note, no trem and no 'B' bender, just fingers!)

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Post by Barry on Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:06 am

corsair wrote:
grogg wrote:Corsair - how old are you really?
Cheeky sod! Younger than Barry. mate... younger than Barry!!...
Swine kiwi player! Everyone is younger than me! Crying or Very sad
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