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Post by corsair on Wed May 28, 2008 6:13 pm

...wasn't he the guitarist on "Owner of a broken heart"? What's the 4th knob for on that custom Pantera? Sure is pretty, eh!

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Post by Old Gregg on Wed May 28, 2008 6:34 pm

colt933 wrote:Trevor Rabin, the whole reason I discovered Westone.

TR with a custom Pantera that you'll never see anywhere else:


:bball: Hey, we have points on the scoreboard!!!!

I've no idea who Trevor Rabin is (nothing that a quick Google won't fix Wink ), but it's great to see someone actually posing on their album sleeve with a Westone guitar Very Happy (even if it is one that nobody else can buy Crying or Very sad ).

Good find there, colt933 Very Happy .

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Post by Sfalj on Wed May 28, 2008 7:43 pm

corsair wrote:...wasn't he the guitarist on "Owner of a broken heart"? What's the 4th knob for on that custom Pantera? Sure is pretty, eh!

I think you mean Owner of a lonely heart. And yes, he was the guitarist for 90125.

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Post by corsair on Wed May 28, 2008 7:52 pm

...ta, bud - that's exactly what I meant!

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Post by Guest on Thu May 29, 2008 1:47 pm

Sfalj wrote:And yes, he was the guitarist for 90125.

I thought he was the guitarist in the band 'YES' and the album was called 90124, not 90125! scratch

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Oops! My mistake, he did make an album called 90125 as well! Embarassed I'd forgotten about that! Never get old, it does funny things to your memory!!! scratch


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Post by colt933 on Thu May 29, 2008 3:51 pm

corsair wrote:...wasn't he the guitarist on "Owner of a broken heart"? What's the 4th knob for on that custom Pantera? Sure is pretty, eh!

He wrote "Owner of a Lonely Heart" and all of the other songs on 90125, Big Generator, and Talk, and 3 songs on Union. He graciously shared writing credit on all of these songs, but it's pretty obvious he wrote them all.

The custom light blue Pantera has a single coil in the middle, between the two humbuckers. I bet the 4th knob is a volume knob for the middle pickup. Panteras have a 3-way selector and the combination of 3 pickups with a 3-way switch doesn't give you many options.

On the Spectrum FX guitars, one of the push-pull knobs turns on the middle pickup because it only has a 3-way.

Search youtube for Trevor Rabin. You'll find LOTS of video of him
playing the Pantera X-390CB. Check out his video for 'Something To
Hold On To' from his 1989 solo album. There are a couple of hundred
Westone and SLM guitars on the set, including the light blue Pantera.



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Post by colt933 on Thu May 29, 2008 3:53 pm

TR burning up the X-390CB:


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Post by corsair on Thu May 29, 2008 4:04 pm

colt933 wrote:The custom light blue Pantera has a single coil in the middle, between the two humbuckers. I bet the 4th knob is a volume knob for the middle pickup. Panteras have a 3-way selector and the combination of 3 pickups with a 3-way switch doesn't give you many options.

On the Spectrum FX guitars, one of the push-pull knobs turns on the middle pickup because it only has a 3-way.

Yes, I think we should keep in mind there were one or two issues with Westones, eh! Smile In addition to the above, how about there being no string height adjustment on Bendmaster Deluxe bridges; my Genesis has no coil split for the h/b and only a 3 way switch!? I'm sure on eor two of the longterm Westone owners have more irksome things as well - so they're NOT perfect, just very close to it!! Laughing

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Post by colt933 on Thu May 29, 2008 4:12 pm

corsair wrote:Yes, I think we should keep in mind there were one or two issues with Westones, eh! Smile In addition to the above, how about there being no string height adjustment on Bendmaster Deluxe bridges; my Genesis has no coil split for the h/b and only a 3 way switch!? I'm sure on eor two of the longterm Westone owners have more irksome things as well - so they're NOT perfect, just very close to it!! Laughing

Don't forget that Floyd Rose tremolos and all tune-o-matic style bridges have no individual string height adjustment.

This is not necessarily a flaw...Mr. Rose and the Gibson brand have made LOTS of money without individual string height adjustment.

The Pantera X-390 guitars typically have Kahler Pro tremolos which DO have individual string height adjustment.

Also, the extra knob on the light blue Pantera is a great way of controlling the extra pickup, and the push-pull on the Spectrum FX is another great way of controlling the extra pickup.


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Post by colt933 on Thu May 29, 2008 4:15 pm

More TR burning the X-390CB with good close-ups. Note that his guitar does not have the panther head logo on the body.



Check out my two Pantera X-390CB's. The one on the left has the panther head logo and the one on the right has the 'Westone Pantera' logo like Rabin's. Both have Kahler Pros. The X-390DB prototype has a Bendmaster Deluxe.


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Post by Old Gregg on Thu May 29, 2008 5:16 pm

colt933 wrote:TR burning up the X-390CB:

Enlightening Smile !

Steve Howe has better cheek bones than Kate Moss, don't you think Very Happy !?

Sorry Suspect , back on topic ....


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Re: Famous Westone Players - Name and (no) shame them!

Post by colt933 on Thu May 29, 2008 8:38 pm



:bball: Hey, we have points on the scoreboard!!!!

I've no idea who Trevor Rabin is (nothing that a quick Google won't fix Wink ), but it's great to see someone actually posing on their album sleeve with a Westone guitar Very Happy (even if it is one that nobody else can buy Crying or Very sad ).

Good find there, colt933 Very Happy .

Check out his Live in LA release on VoicePrint. That's the X-390CB on the cover (although the cover of the version of the CD that I bought a couple of years ago is a little different) and also heard on I believe 100% of the songs on the album (that's what it sounds like).

He is definitely the most famous Westone endorsee. He also endorsed Alvarez-Yairi guitars ( DY-88 ) and Ampeg amps (VT-100 tube heads), both SLM products with Westone. Chris Squire, the Yes founder and bassist/vocalist has endorsed Ampeg amps for decades and obviously hooked Rabin up with SLM.

Check out Trevor Rabin on Ebay. There are LOTS of magazine advertisements for sale that picture Rabin endorsing Westone, Alvarez, Alvarez-Yairi, and Ampeg products. One of his Westone advertisement photos is from set of the "Something To Hold On To" music video that I posted earlier in this thread. You can also purchase all 5 of his solo CD releases on Ebay, along with his Master Licks/Star Sessions guitar instructional video (featuring his famous strat, the Pantera X-390CB, and the Alvarez-Yairi DY-88, his Yes releases, and the 9012Live video (no Westones there...before his relationship with SLM).

In the instructional video, he discusses Tom Presley at SLM (designer of the Westone Panteras and first Spectrum guitars along with the Bendmaster FT and Bendmaster Deluxe tremolos and the Magnaflux UBC pickups) making the guitar for him and presenting him with it.

There are a few really good bootleg videos from the Union and Talk tours and one or two really rare ones from Big Generator that feature the Pantera X-390CB and and the Alvarez/Yairi DY-88. Most of the live videos of him on Youtube are from these bootlegs.

There was a Trevor Rabin Signature model from Westone around 1989-1990 and then these were re-branded as Alvarez after the Westone brand name disappeared in 1990-91. These guitars occasionally appear on Ebay, but mostly the Alvarez versions...I have only seen one Westone Trevor Rabin Signature model for sale on Ebay and it went for like $900 and wasn't in good condition. Occasionally you will find necks from Westone or Alvarez Trevor Rabin Signature models on Ebay as well (from the cheaper bolt-on neck model).

It surprises me that the Westone forum guys aren't familiar with Trevor Rabin or his work. He's in my top 5 favorite guitarists with Van Halen, Dave Gilmour, Mark Knopfler, and Eric Johnson. He and Van Halen are friends and Van Halen covered one of Rabin's songs on the last VH album with Sammy. Also, Van Halen's "Hot For Teacher" riff and beat from 1984 sound a whole lot like a song from Trevor Rabin's Wolf album from 1980. Obviously Van Halen knew who Rabin was about 30 years ago, before he was in Yes.

Since he left Yes in 1994, he has scored over 30 motion pictures including some Jerry Bruckheimer blockbusters like Armageddon and more recently the two National Treasure movies.

He is a bit of a guitar God. Check out this cool picture of TR with Satriani, Vai, Lukather, Morello, and Jordan (these guys are all legends and he was invited to play a virtuoso show with them):



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Post by DavidL on Fri May 30, 2008 1:41 pm

1980's Geordie black metal band venom standardised on Westones, vocalist/bassist played both Concords and Panteras but more often than not super headless models. In most footage the guitarist is usally playing a black Dimension iv.

In Tina Turners music video for 'one of the living' from the Mad Max beyond thunderdome film she can be seen playing what looks like a red Dimension iv though on the quick flashes of it you see I couldnt be sure, however, the fretboard is painted red to match the body which I believe was the case with the Dimension iv models in red. Also it only has 2 humbuckers rather than H/S/H setup so maybe a custom?

There is also a local busker who plays a pristine cherry red concord 1 !! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post by Guest on Fri May 30, 2008 2:40 pm

Hi there David, good to see another fellow Geordie joining the troops! Smile

Right, back to the subject!

There was also Dave Brock out of Hawkwind, (I'm not sure if Guy has already mentioned him) but he had a Paduak that he played on stage and it was hand painted with a picture from one of his album covers by our one and only Guy (Thunduak-1). It sold recently on eBay to a bloke in Germany called 'Ginger Baker' for £3,600!
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Post by Sfalj on Fri May 30, 2008 7:07 pm

Hey Colt! That is some extensive info you have on Trevor Rabin. I guess you are a fan after all. I haven't seen the videos you posted yet because I'm at home on dial up, but I'll be sure to check them out later this week.

I personally know absolutely nothing about him but you make him sound pretty good. I'll post later and tell you what I thought of it.

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Post by Old Gregg on Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:59 pm

Another good clip of New Model Army in action Very Happy , c/w Westone Thunder Jet Bass being slapped, plucked, dug at and even a few tasteful harmonics too. What more could you ask Very Happy ?

Link ...

I know that most of you will hate this band Crying or Very sad , but the Westone bass footage is unrivaled Wink .

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Post by Krysbass on Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:08 am

Not exactly a household name fame-wise, but The Blues Band's bassist, Gary Fletcher, still plays a left-handed Thunder 1A, natural finish.

Going back to the 80's, I'm pretty sure Spandau Ballets' bassist, Martin Kemp "played" a white Westone semi-acoustic in the video for "True". (sorry, I don't know the model name, because I'm a bassist and not too well up on guitars with more than 4-strings).

Finally, when Simply Red performed "Money's too tight to mention" on BBC TV's "Top of the Pops", I'm almost certain their bassist was playing a Thunder III.

The search for similarly enlightened musicians continues......

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Post by Silverfox on Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:39 am

Krysbass wrote:
Going back to the 80's, I'm pretty sure Spandau Ballets' bassist, Martin Kemp "played" a white Westone semi-acoustic in the video for "True". (sorry, I don't know the model name, because I'm a bassist and not too well up on guitars with more than 4-strings).

You're not wrong! I spotted this a little while back while watching The Hits channel one day. The guitar is a Rainbow but I'm not sure if it was a I or a II. Was white ever a standard colour for the rainbows?

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Post by hummel on Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:06 pm

A "the Rail" with the bassplayer of Wire on US television... must have been 1983'ish?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r6eAOmz-Aag&feature=related

By the way, I saw them (Wire) perform 2 months ago at Hedon, the local venue in Zwolle. Old&bold, but very powerfull en tight.

http://www.hedon-zwolle.nl/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=81&catid=131

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Post by Old Gregg on Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:31 pm

Seeing those clips of Wire reminded me of another UK Indie band who had a few Matsumokos in their arsenal - The Fall.

Some people here (I'm looking at you again Polly Wink ) are going to hate this band and won't make it far enough into the clip to even see the left-handed, blue, Westone Thunder 1A guitar, being weilded by the guitarist on the left of the screen, but that's their loss tongue . Personally, I've always had a soft spot for this band, as Mark E. Smith has the most amazing announciation in the world of popular music and I've had many happy hours impersontaing him with my friends, whilst talking gibberish over a beer (or ten drunken ).

The Fall - "Big New Prinz"

The Fall - "Hit the North"


It's really hard to see in these clips, but that Westone has been painted up to look like a globe (I think) and is primarily blue, with little brownish-green "islands" on the body. I've got another video of theirs somehwere (from The Tube TV programme) and I remember noticing that there is definitley some texture to these blobs of brown paint, so it's not simply a case of the blue paint having flaked off to reveal the original colour underneath.

Fascinating, eh!? Laughing

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:46 pm

Old Gregg wrote:Seeing those clips of Wire reminded me of another UK Indie band who had a few Matsumokos in their arsenal - The Fall.

Some people here (I'm looking at you again Polly Wink ) are going to hate this band and won't make it far enough into the clip to even see the left-handed, blue, Westone Thunder 1A guitar, being weilded by the guitarist on the left of the screen, but that's their loss ....

Gregg, you are dead right there mate! affraid

Sorry, but I think it played for about two seconds before I hit the 'Close' button!
Laughing Don't forget, I'm just a delicate little flower :flower: and my shell like lugholes weren't designed to listen to that sort of music! No Music for me ended somewhere back in the seventies afro and I've been stuck in a time warp ever since! "With a jump to the left ..." lol! lol!

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Post by logicaljohn on Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:47 pm

Well I'm very fond of the Fall - uh

But they can get a bit unlistenable at times !! - uh

In fact, the fellow playing the fender bass there in Hit The North (thats one of my favourite Fall numbers !) lives about 50 yards away from me (on the other side of the road, mind..). He's called Steve Hanley, in the Fall's turbulent (and ongoing) line up changes I think he was the most consistent and long standing member - uh (apart from Smith of course) doing 20 or more years service.. and he works as a caretaker/groundsman/maintenance at the primary school all our kids went to .

I was a big Yes fan as a youth (before Rabins time) but my all time and ongoing Westone hero is Dr Brock of that there Hawkwind....

You can't see much of it here but isnt that a Spectrum he's playing ?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ywWlUfaWlS0

Any suggestions on what Huwy is playing the lead on ?

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Post by Old Gregg on Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:38 pm

Great-uh, post-tt there Logical-ll Jaaaaaaaahhhn-nn! Wink

Ah, don't you just love cliquey, in-jokes everybody Laughing ?

Interesting story about Steve Hanley, too. I bet if some of the parents saw and heard The Fall during some of their more "experimental" phases, there'd be a lot of rumours and suspicion about the creepy old caretaker Suspect (like a real life version of Scooby Doo Laughing ). Anyway, glad that I'm not the only one out there with "left field" musical taste Wink .

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Post by logicaljohn on Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:53 am

Sorry about the cliquey in jokes there Embarassed

- uh...

I believe Mr Hanley (as he is now called) is quite popular at the school..

I would imagine many of the parents know his heritage, Hacienda DJ and author Dave Haslam is one of them.. It's the original School of Rock.

Steve played a free gig there the other week with his current band, featuring himself and Tom Hingley out of the Inspiral Carpets. Unfortunately I only heard about it afterwards, since our kids have all left.

A couple of them are at the nearby High School though , the headmaster of which is Gene Simmons out of Kiss. Paul Stanley is the chief dinner lady. Oops 'Lunchtime Supervisor'. And Jack Black is head of sports.



(Some of those comments are cliquey in jokes - others just plain made up.)

Mind you having said all that, I drove past Mr Hanley on the way to work this very morning and he is starting to resemble a Scooby Doo caretaker. Mark E Smith (the singer and driving force of The Fall) has turned into something like a hobbit permanently chewing a wasp , this happened some years back though...

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Here's another great Rabin clip with the Pantera X-390

Post by colt933 on Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:36 am

Lift Me Up - Union tour 1991

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Cliff Burton played a Westone???

Post by flynny on Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:29 am

Hi again,
as i was researching Westones i fell upon a page claiming that Cliff Burton of Metallica played a Westone Bass.....

http://www.bgra.net/2004/review.php?id=1864&type=bass

Not sure how true that is but when i looked at a list of Cliffs instruments the westone wasn't in there, who knows eh?

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